<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Collecting ideas for a MUD server... (fwd) --> <!--X-From-R13: X Q Znjerapr <pynjNpc.arg> --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:03:50 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: E120xbW-0001hn-00@under.eng.cp.net --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.LNX.4.10.9912220451210.9992-100000@localhost.localdomain --> <!--X-Reference: 3861401A.8E92B39D@classic-games.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Collecting ideas for a MUD server... 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(fwd)</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Collecting ideas for a MUD server... (fwd) </LI> <LI><em>From</em>: J C Lawrence <<A HREF="mailto:claw#cp,net">claw#cp,net</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:03:46 -0800</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:18:18 -0600 Greg Miller <gmiller#classic-games,com> wrote: > NT4 is tolerable for mud use, and Windows 2000 has already > developed a strong reputation for stability. <<Warning: I used to make my living doing security programming>> Please be careful of the difference between "security" in any absolute sense, and a "reputation for security". There is a large philosophical and practical difference between the two. They do not even approximate being the same. A reasonable and even-handed if light weight introduction to the difference can be found at: <A HREF="http://www.zdnet.com/zdtv/cybercrime/story/0,3700,2382021,00.html">http://www.zdnet.com/zdtv/cybercrime/story/0,3700,2382021,00.html</A> "Security Is Not a Product; It's a Process" as Bruce Schneier wrote in this month's Crypto-Gram: <A HREF="http://www.counterpane.com/crypto-gram-9912.html">http://www.counterpane.com/crypto-gram-9912.html</A> His discussion of the weaknesses for Public Key Infrastructure also indirectly pertains to the recent idea of PGP's webs-of-trust among MUD servers: <A HREF="http://www.counterpane.com/pki-risks.html">http://www.counterpane.com/pki-risks.html</A> ObNote: Marcus Ranum of UnterMud and UberMUD fame is a security guy. Small world: <A HREF="http://www.clark.net/pub/mjr/">http://www.clark.net/pub/mjr/</A> He's written some good stuff. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#kanga,nu ----------(*) Internet: coder#kanga,nu ...Honorary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00762" HREF="msg00762.html">[MUD-Dev] PGP confusions hopefully resolved (was: collecting ideas ...)</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> "Wesley W. Terpstra" <terpstra@iota.dhs.org></li></ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00767" HREF="msg00767.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Collecting ideas for a MUD server... 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(fwd)</A></strong>, Rahul Sinha <a href="mailto:rsinha@glue.umd.edu">rsinha@glue.umd.edu</a>, Wed 22 Dec 1999, 20:56 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00730" HREF="msg00730.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Collecting ideas for a MUD server... (fwd)</A></strong>, Greg Miller <a href="mailto:gmiller@classic-games.com">gmiller@classic-games.com</a>, Wed 22 Dec 1999, 21:32 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00748" HREF="msg00748.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Collecting ideas for a MUD server... (fwd)</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw@cp.net">claw@cp.net</a>, Thu 23 Dec 1999, 02:03 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00767" HREF="msg00767.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Collecting ideas for a MUD server... (fwd)</A></strong>, Greg Miller <a href="mailto:gmiller@classic-games.com">gmiller@classic-games.com</a>, Thu 23 Dec 1999, 17:00 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00769" HREF="msg00769.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Collecting ideas for a MUD server... (fwd)</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw@kanga.nu">claw@kanga.nu</a>, Thu 23 Dec 1999, 17:12 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00780" HREF="msg00780.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Collecting ideas for a MUD server... (fwd)</A></strong>, Greg Miller <a href="mailto:gmiller@classic-games.com">gmiller@classic-games.com</a>, Fri 24 Dec 1999, 07:47 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00762" HREF="msg00762.html">[MUD-Dev] PGP confusions hopefully resolved (was: collecting ideas ...)</A></strong>, Wesley W. Terpstra <a href="mailto:terpstra@iota.dhs.org">terpstra@iota.dhs.org</a>, Thu 23 Dec 1999, 17:00 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>