<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Waving Hands -- Debian's Spellcast for Linux --> <!--X-From-R13: Rna Euvbivgm <qnafNqevmmyr.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 22:39:24 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.LNX.4.10.9912202223390.15152-100000@drizzle.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: E11zZHl-00037Z-00@dingo.kanga.nu --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Waving Hands -- Debian's Spellcast for Linux</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:dans@drizzle.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00701.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00708.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00687.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00709.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00704">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00704">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00704">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Waving Hands -- Debian's Spellcast for Linux</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Waving Hands -- Debian's Spellcast for Linux</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Dan Shiovitz <<A HREF="mailto:dans#drizzle,com">dans#drizzle,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 22:32:30 -0800 (PST)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Sat, 18 Dec 1999, J C Lawrence wrote: > [..] > Mage2Mage still seems much more promising. The problem I have with mage2mage and that kind of "let's make magic into a programming language" system is it seems biased towards simple spells, like "CREATE + FIREBALL" and not more interesting stuff like "MEND + NONMAGICAL + METALS + LESS THAN + 3 + GRAMS". To a certain extent this balances out, since "CREATE + FIREBALL" is easily countered by "SUMMON + ICE" or "DESTROY + FIRE" or whatever, while the more complex stuff has to be countered in a more complex manner, but what are the non-spellcasters supposed to do? I guess the right literary ref here is the Vlad Taltos books -- more or less everyone can cast spells in that series, so they use magic to accomplish the heroic and adventurous tasks of protecting themselves from the rain or teleporting to the grocery store. Given that kind of situation I'd raher just call it 'technology' and have magic users stick to the cool stuff. -- Dan Shiovitz :: dbs#cs,wisc.edu :: <A HREF="http://www.drizzle.com/~dans">http://www.drizzle.com/~dans</A> "He settled down to dictate a letter to the Consolidated Nailfile and Eyebrow Tweezer Corporation of Scranton, Pa., which would make them realize that life is stern and earnest and Nailfile and Eyebrow Tweezer Corporations are not put in this world for pleasure alone." -PGW _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00709" HREF="msg00709.html">Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] Waving Hands -- Debian's Spellcast for Linux</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Travis Casey <efindel@io.com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00687" HREF="msg00687.html">[MUD-Dev] Waving Hands -- Debian's Spellcast for Linux</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> J C Lawrence <claw@kanga.nu></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00701.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: MUD source licensing: beyond GPL? 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