<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game" --> <!--X-From-R13: [nggurj [vunyl <qvnoybNorfg.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 11:17:13 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.BSF.4.10.9911091101500.7694-100000#shell9,ba.best.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 7e7ljsuf56.fsf#zesoi,fer.hr --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:diablo#best,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00152.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00153.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00148.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00152.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00151">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00151">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00151">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Matthew Mihaly <<A HREF="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 11:04:21 -0800 (PST)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On 9 Nov 1999, Miroslav Silovic wrote: > J C Lawrence <claw#cp,net> writes: > > > Consider the function of a a social predator. He does "bad things". > > Yet, conversely, he prompts the development of the society in new > > and potentially interesting fashions, and can in fact be the > > catalyst which invokes a society and a sense of group from an > > otherwise disassociated group of individualists.Yet that social > > predator does all the things we consider otherise abhorrent. > > You mix conflictive players with people who bother others outside game > boundaries. A juicy assassin is a bonus to every MUD. On the other > hand, cheaters, sex abusers and people who use email threats against > the admins are *not*. Disconnect, toast, siteban. That simple. > > On another issue, from MUD FAQ: playing a MUD is privilege granted by > admins, not a right. After all, admins pay for the site and the > connection, keep the server up, build on it, and do all the *work*. I > think it's their prerogative to decide what sort of players they want > to have (unless they charge for playing, things get murkier in that > case) - they shape the society by shaping the playerbase. Players that > don't like that, don't have to play. It took me awhile to decide how to deal with disruptive players in a commercial game (like ours), but finally I decided that the only way I treat them differently if they are abusive is to turn them into a shrub rather than delete them, in case they decide that a public apology and a change of attitude wouldn't be so bad after all. Those players who have never bought anything (we don't charge for access) just get deleted _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00148" HREF="msg00148.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Miroslav Silovic <silovic#zesoi,fer.hr></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00152.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00153.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00148.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00152.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00151"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00151"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00153" HREF="msg00153.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Tue 09 Nov 1999, 19:26 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00155" HREF="msg00155.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</A></strong>, Holly Sommer <a href="mailto:hsommer#micro,ti.com">hsommer#micro,ti.com</a>, Tue 09 Nov 1999, 20:02 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00158" HREF="msg00158.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</A></strong>, Balthazaar/BalthMURP <a href="mailto:balthmurp#mediaone,net">balthmurp#mediaone,net</a>, Wed 10 Nov 1999, 00:46 GMT </LI> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00148" HREF="msg00148.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</A></strong>, Miroslav Silovic <a href="mailto:silovic#zesoi,fer.hr">silovic#zesoi,fer.hr</a>, Tue 09 Nov 1999, 18:35 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00151" HREF="msg00151.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Tue 09 Nov 1999, 19:17 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00152" HREF="msg00152.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</A></strong>, David Bennett <a href="mailto:ddt#discworld,imaginary.com">ddt#discworld,imaginary.com</a>, Tue 09 Nov 1999, 19:17 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00142" HREF="msg00142.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</A></strong>, Marc Bowden <a href="mailto:ryumo#merit,edu">ryumo#merit,edu</a>, Mon 08 Nov 1999, 19:03 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00160" HREF="msg00160.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#cp,net">claw#cp,net</a>, Wed 10 Nov 1999, 02:21 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00139" HREF="msg00139.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</A></strong>, Daniel James <a href="mailto:dan#thecan,org">dan#thecan,org</a>, Mon 08 Nov 1999, 19:03 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>