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<LI><em>From</em>: Matthew Mihaly &lt;<A HREF="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</A>&gt;</LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 11:04:21 -0800 (PST)</LI>
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On 9 Nov 1999, Miroslav Silovic wrote:

&gt; J C Lawrence &lt;claw#cp,net&gt; writes:
&gt; 
&gt; &gt; Consider the function of a a social predator.  He does "bad things".
&gt; &gt; Yet, conversely, he prompts the development of the society in new
&gt; &gt; and potentially interesting fashions, and can in fact be the
&gt; &gt; catalyst which invokes a society and a sense of group from an
&gt; &gt; otherwise disassociated group of individualists.Yet that social
&gt; &gt; predator does all the things we consider otherise abhorrent.
&gt; 
&gt; You mix conflictive players with people who bother others outside game
&gt; boundaries. A juicy assassin is a bonus to every MUD. On the other
&gt; hand, cheaters, sex abusers and people who use email threats against
&gt; the admins are *not*. Disconnect, toast, siteban. That simple.
&gt; 
&gt; On another issue, from MUD FAQ: playing a MUD is privilege granted by
&gt; admins, not a right. After all, admins pay for the site and the
&gt; connection, keep the server up, build on it, and do all the *work*. I
&gt; think it's their prerogative to decide what sort of players they want
&gt; to have (unless they charge for playing, things get murkier in that
&gt; case) - they shape the society by shaping the playerbase. Players that
&gt; don't like that, don't have to play.

It took me awhile to decide how to deal with disruptive players in a
commercial game (like ours), but finally I decided that the only way I
treat them differently if they are abusive is to turn them into a shrub
rather than delete them, in case they decide that a public apology and a
change of attitude wouldn't be so bad after all. Those players who have
never bought anything (we don't charge for access) just get deleted




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<LI><strong><A NAME="00153" HREF="msg00153.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</A></strong>, 
Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Tue 09 Nov 1999, 19:26 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00155" HREF="msg00155.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</A></strong>, 
Holly Sommer <a href="mailto:hsommer#micro,ti.com">hsommer#micro,ti.com</a>, Tue 09 Nov 1999, 20:02 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00158" HREF="msg00158.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</A></strong>, 
Balthazaar/BalthMURP <a href="mailto:balthmurp#mediaone,net">balthmurp#mediaone,net</a>, Wed 10 Nov 1999, 00:46 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00148" HREF="msg00148.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</A></strong>, 
Miroslav Silovic <a href="mailto:silovic#zesoi,fer.hr">silovic#zesoi,fer.hr</a>, Tue 09 Nov 1999, 18:35 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00151" HREF="msg00151.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</A></strong>, 
Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Tue 09 Nov 1999, 19:17 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00152" HREF="msg00152.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</A></strong>, 
David Bennett <a href="mailto:ddt#discworld,imaginary.com">ddt#discworld,imaginary.com</a>, Tue 09 Nov 1999, 19:17 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00142" HREF="msg00142.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</A></strong>, 
Marc Bowden <a href="mailto:ryumo#merit,edu">ryumo#merit,edu</a>, Mon 08 Nov 1999, 19:03 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00160" HREF="msg00160.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#cp,net">claw#cp,net</a>, Wed 10 Nov 1999, 02:21 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00139" HREF="msg00139.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</A></strong>, 
Daniel James <a href="mailto:dan#thecan,org">dan#thecan,org</a>, Mon 08 Nov 1999, 19:03 GMT
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