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<LI><em>From</em>: "Matthew D. Fuller" &lt;<A HREF="mailto:fullermd#futuresouth,com">fullermd#futuresouth,com</A>&gt;</LI>
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On Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 09:39:33PM -0700, a little birdie told me
that Ben Greear remarked
&gt; 
&gt; My personal opinion (and I have been living in a cave of my own
&gt; construction for several years) is that text based MUDS are in
&gt; a decline, and have been for years, even as the rest of the NET
&gt; has expanded.  Although I do not know the answer, I wonder if the

I think you'll have a lot of disagreement on this point, from me as well
as other people, but I'll save that flamewar for another time  ;)


&gt; huge number of forks in the MUD tree is part of this decline.  Because
&gt; advances are not shared back into the community, I believe much effort
&gt; is wasted on the mundane, where as a GPL type license seems to keep
&gt; branching to a minimum and maximize the collective efforts of many.
&gt; 
&gt; However, from personal experience, the GPL is not a magic bullet.  I
&gt; have released Scry and it's client under the GPL for over a year now,
&gt; and though there have been many downloads, and I know ppl are running
&gt; the server, at least on their own machine to see how it works, I have
&gt; had little in the way of patches offered from the field.  On the other
&gt; hand, many people do comment that they really do like that it's under
&gt; the GPL, and several coders have joined my own server project and have
&gt; contributed some useful code.

I think if we're talking about codebases that can be used commercially as
well as 'freely', the GPL becomes a problem itself.  Requiring source
disclosure of all your changes is a burden if you're trying to use those
changes (new features!  new things to do!  new fun stuff!) to distinguish
yourself from 'the rest' and attract people to make a buck.

\begin{flamebait}
BSD-style licensing!
\end{flamebait}




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<LI><strong><A NAME="00263" HREF="msg00263.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, 
Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo@best.com">diablo@best.com</a>, Tue 16 Nov 1999, 03:46 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00262" HREF="msg00262.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, 
Andru Luvisi <a href="mailto:luvisi@andru.sonoma.edu">luvisi@andru.sonoma.edu</a>, Tue 16 Nov 1999, 03:46 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00280" HREF="msg00280.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, 
Travis S. Casey <a href="mailto:efindel@io.com">efindel@io.com</a>, Wed 17 Nov 1999, 02:18 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00283" HREF="msg00283.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, 
Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear@cyberhighway.net">greear@cyberhighway.net</a>, Wed 17 Nov 1999, 05:36 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00319" HREF="msg00319.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, 
Matthew D. Fuller <a href="mailto:fullermd@futuresouth.com">fullermd@futuresouth.com</a>, Wed 17 Nov 1999, 23:32 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00327" HREF="msg00327.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, 
Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo@best.com">diablo@best.com</a>, Thu 18 Nov 1999, 00:37 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00349" HREF="msg00349.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, 
Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear@cyberhighway.net">greear@cyberhighway.net</a>, Thu 18 Nov 1999, 07:34 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00368" HREF="msg00368.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, 
Greg Miller <a href="mailto:gmiller@classic-games.com">gmiller@classic-games.com</a>, Thu 18 Nov 1999, 18:02 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00385" HREF="msg00385.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw@cp.net">claw@cp.net</a>, Thu 18 Nov 1999, 22:53 GMT
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