<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] Depth of realism --> <!--X-From-R13: Fenivf Qnfrl <rsvaqryNvb.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 08:45:06 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 0986.991122@io.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.LNX.4.10.9911222101410.18627-100000@peace.tbcnet.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] Depth of realism</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:efindel@io.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00460.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00461.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00460.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00497.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00463">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00463">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00463">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] Depth of realism</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] Depth of realism</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Travis Casey <<A HREF="mailto:efindel#io,com">efindel#io,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 23:40:37 -0500</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Monday, November 22, 1999, Wendy Winkler wrote: > Your contentions are of considerable interest. To be specific: > On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, Marian Griffith wrote: >> On Sun 21 Nov, Jo Dillon wrote: >> > Travis S. Casey (efindel#io,com) spake thusly: >> > > > Also, on a medieval mud, medieval army sizes should be used. Until the >> > > late part of the medieval period, few battles involved more than a few >> > > hundred people total. You can break those up into units of 10 or so, and >> > > have only 10 to 50 units to handle for most battles. >> > I'd have thought a couple of thousand and up more typical - it depends which >> > area and time you're talking about of course. >> A couple of hundred is a fairly good estimate for medieval armies. Romans >> had a bit larger armies, but even they rarely brought a thousand soldiers >> in the field at the same time. > It depends a great deal upon what you mean by an "army". A couple of > hundred men might make a useful skirmishing force, same as today. But if > you're talking about the sort of outfit which could be expected to fight a > regular battle: [snip various examples of large medieval forces] I probably wasn't as clear as I should have been -- I said "few battles involved" because I wanted to include not just formal armies, but all medieval battles. Remember, most medieval battles were local things -- struggles between local lords, rather than national-level battles. That's the context in which I spoke of a few hundred being the average size. Naturally, there were battles in the medieval period which involved a lot more soldiers -- but they were vastly outnumbered by the local "wars". -- |\ _,,,---,,_ Travis S. Casey <efindel#io,com> ZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ No one agrees with me. Not even me. |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00497" HREF="msg00497.html">Re: Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] Depth of realism</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> J C Lawrence <claw@cp.net></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00460" HREF="msg00460.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Depth of realism</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Wendy Winkler <dionyza@peace.tbcnet.com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00460.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Depth of realism</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00461.html">Re[4]: [MUD-Dev] (no subject)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00460.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Depth of realism</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00497.html">Re: Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] Depth of realism</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00463"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00463"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Depth of realism</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00434" HREF="msg00434.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Depth of realism</A></strong>, Jo Dillon <a href="mailto:emily@thelonious.new.ox.ac.uk">emily@thelonious.new.ox.ac.uk</a>, Sun 21 Nov 1999, 22:18 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00455" HREF="msg00455.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Depth of realism</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon@iaehv.nl">gryphon@iaehv.nl</a>, Mon 22 Nov 1999, 23:02 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00457" HREF="msg00457.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Depth of realism</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo@best.com">diablo@best.com</a>, Tue 23 Nov 1999, 03:37 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00460" HREF="msg00460.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Depth of realism</A></strong>, Wendy Winkler <a href="mailto:dionyza@peace.tbcnet.com">dionyza@peace.tbcnet.com</a>, Tue 23 Nov 1999, 03:37 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00463" HREF="msg00463.html">Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] Depth of realism</A></strong>, Travis Casey <a href="mailto:efindel@io.com">efindel@io.com</a>, Tue 23 Nov 1999, 16:45 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00497" HREF="msg00497.html">Re: Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] Depth of realism</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw@cp.net">claw@cp.net</a>, Wed 24 Nov 1999, 22:16 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00462" HREF="msg00462.html">Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] Depth of realism</A></strong>, Jeremy Music <a href="mailto:rezo@lords.com">rezo@lords.com</a>, Tue 23 Nov 1999, 16:45 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00480" HREF="msg00480.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Depth of realism</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw@cp.net">claw@cp.net</a>, Wed 24 Nov 1999, 19:18 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00417" HREF="msg00417.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Depth of realism</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw@cp.net">claw@cp.net</a>, Sat 20 Nov 1999, 01:14 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>