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<LI><em>From</em>: Greg Miller <<A HREF="mailto:gmiller#classic-games,com">gmiller#classic-games,com</A>></LI>
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"Travis S. Casey" wrote:
> There's a difference between "Player X's piece" in a game and a character.
> In the games which you mention, the ships are no more "characters" than a
> game piece in Monopoly is. Similarly, one doesn't have a "character" in
> Doom -- you have a game piece which is your representative in the game.
OK, from now on, I guess we could just always refer to them as "player
pieces" rather than "player characters" if that makes you happy since it
changes nothing from my perspective.
> "Character" to me implies that there is supposed to be some degree of
> characterization -- i.e., that the "character" is supposed to act
> differently than the "player" might in the same circumstances. Without
> that, a "character" is nothing more than a game piece, and there's no real
> point in distinguishing between the"character" and the player.
Sounds good to me.
>
> That's the sense in which I meant my comment -- if all socialization is
> directly between players, all you have are game pieces. There's nothing
> intrinsically wrong with that, but why call them "characters" in that
> case?
Why not? It sounds better than calling them "shoes" and whatever
terminology we use is fine if we can communicate with it.
>
> > > In my own experience, most mud players have never *tried* roleplaying.
> > > Thus, they can't know whether it would be fun for them or not.
> >
> > Most have never tried suicide, either, but they have an idea of what
> > it's about.
>
> Correction: they *think* they know what it's about. Unfortunately, many
> "roleplayers" on muds are very bad examples -- especially some of those
> who are most vocal about it.
Agreed there. Same thing with pkillers, in my experience.
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00046" HREF="msg00046.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Relationship between pkers and monster AI?</A></strong>,
Greg Miller <a href="mailto:gmiller#classic-games,com">gmiller#classic-games,com</a>, Thu 14 Oct 1999, 18:07 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00049" HREF="msg00049.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Relationship between pkers and monster AI?</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00060" HREF="msg00060.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Relationship between pkers and monster AI?</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00067" HREF="msg00067.html">[MUD-Dev] Pueblo</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00042" HREF="msg00042.html">[MUD-Dev] Affect of personalizing cannon fodder mobs</A></strong>,
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