<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] historians --> <!--X-From-R13: [nggurj [vunyl <qvnoybNorfg.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 10:38:01 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.BSF.4.10.9910301857001.15987-100000#shell9,ba.best.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] historians</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:diablo#best,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00086.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00085.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00085.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00091.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00087">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00087">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00087">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] historians</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] historians</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Matthew Mihaly <<A HREF="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 19:06:44 -0700 (PDT)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Hi. I want to have a position in Achaea that consists of overseeing the chronicles of Achaean history, and ensuring that all the plots and intrigues and broad storylines are recorded for the sake of posterity, and for the sake of making players want to behave in nicely epic ways in order to get their names in the history (We have found that this sort of incentive is absolutely huge to players. They love being immortalized.) I'm wondering if any of you have any experience in terms of getting a project like this off the ground, and keeping it going, and, if so, what tips and pointers you may have for ensuring that the histories maintain a reasonable degree of objectivity. Particularly, the problem I haven't gotten around in my head yet is that allowing a mortal to do this sort of thing is going to really open it up to more subjectivity than I'd like (players in the game almost cannot avoid taking political sides, as they are sort of forced in to being associated with one city state or another, with one guild or another, etc, all of which compete or cooperate as groups). Further, a mortal isn't generally going to see the big picture, as he or she will just see things, for the most part, that affect him or her. On the other hand, Gods tend to be slightly disconnected from the day-in, day-out sense of things that makes for history that reflects the times. They can see the big picture more easily, and can generally write more objectively (as their emotional involvement in the affairs of mortals is lower), but they miss that gritty in-the-middle-of-things feeling that mortals can get. Hmm, I suppose I can just have the God manage a group of dedicated historians, with various ones chosen from each side. The god could then try to sort out some semblance of the truth by getting versions of it from his followers, who would ideally be from various factions in the game. This doesn't seem like a fantastically good solution to me, however, and I'd be interested in hearing others. --matt _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00091" HREF="msg00091.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] historians</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Laurel Fan <lf25+@andrew.cmu.edu></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00086.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] weather</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00085.html">[MUD-Dev] Admin: Kanga.Nu has moved again</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00085.html">[MUD-Dev] Admin: Kanga.Nu has moved again</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00091.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] historians</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00087"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00087"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Physics</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00112" HREF="msg00112.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Physics</A></strong>, Laurel Fan <a href="mailto:lf25+@andrew.cmu.edu">lf25+@andrew.cmu.edu</a>, Wed 03 Nov 1999, 21:12 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00113" HREF="msg00113.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Physics</A></strong>, Sellers, Michael <a href="mailto:MSellers#maxis,com">MSellers#maxis,com</a>, Wed 03 Nov 1999, 21:38 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00090" HREF="msg00090.html">[MUD-Dev] mud history</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Mon 01 Nov 1999, 20:09 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00085" HREF="msg00085.html">[MUD-Dev] Admin: Kanga.Nu has moved again</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#cp,net">claw#cp,net</a>, Mon 01 Nov 1999, 18:38 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00087" HREF="msg00087.html">[MUD-Dev] historians</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Mon 01 Nov 1999, 18:38 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00091" HREF="msg00091.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] historians</A></strong>, Laurel Fan <a href="mailto:lf25+@andrew.cmu.edu">lf25+@andrew.cmu.edu</a>, Mon 01 Nov 1999, 20:09 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00093" HREF="msg00093.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] historians</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Mon 01 Nov 1999, 20:42 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00095" HREF="msg00095.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] historians</A></strong>, Laurel Fan <a href="mailto:lf25+@andrew.cmu.edu">lf25+@andrew.cmu.edu</a>, Mon 01 Nov 1999, 21:12 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00092" HREF="msg00092.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] historians</A></strong>, Mik Clarke <a href="mailto:mikclrk#attglobal,net">mikclrk#attglobal,net</a>, Mon 01 Nov 1999, 20:42 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>