<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Fair/Unfair? Scenarios (fwd) --> <!--X-From-R13: [nggurj [vunyl <qvnoybNorfg.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 14:46:54 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.BSF.4.21.9912091441050.5487-100000@shell9.ba.best.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 38502921.8D63ED63@attglobal.net --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Fair/Unfair? Scenarios (fwd)</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:diablo@best.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00571.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00573.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00570.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00581.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00572">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00572">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00572">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Fair/Unfair? Scenarios (fwd)</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Fair/Unfair? Scenarios (fwd)</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Matthew Mihaly <<A HREF="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 14:41:59 -0800 (PST)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Mik Clarke wrote: > Matthew Mihaly wrote: > > > > I am firmly in the fair-is-not-the-end-all-be-all-of-muds camp. Is it > > "fair" to be killed by another player when you don't want to be? No. But > > in my opinion, tough, AND good. > < stuff snipped describing stupid random dungeon> > The problem with this style of play is that it denies the players any > control of the outcome of the game. The foolish and the wise gain and > die just the same. it makes the player irrelevent to the game, just a > convienient warm body for something (generally nasty) to happen to. Yes, I agree completely. See my earlier most opining that neither total predictability nor total randomness are good things. --matt _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00570" HREF="msg00570.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fair/Unfair? Scenarios (fwd)</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Mik Clarke <mikclrk@attglobal.net></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00571.html">[MUD-Dev] Capture of players. (was: Fair/Unfair? Scenarios)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00573.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Capture of players. (was: Fair/Unfair? Scenarios)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00570.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fair/Unfair? Scenarios (fwd)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00581.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fair/Unfair? Scenarios (fwd)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00572"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00572"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Fair/Unfair? Scenarios (fwd)</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00567" HREF="msg00567.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fair/Unfair? Scenarios (fwd)</A></strong>, Dundee <a href="mailto:SkeptAck@antisocial.com">SkeptAck@antisocial.com</a>, Thu 09 Dec 1999, 17:05 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00554" HREF="msg00554.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fair/Unfair? Scenarios (fwd)</A></strong>, Lucas Moten \(Krozy\) <a href="mailto:krozy@hotmail.com">krozy@hotmail.com</a>, Wed 08 Dec 1999, 22:49 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00555" HREF="msg00555.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fair/Unfair? Scenarios (fwd)</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo@best.com">diablo@best.com</a>, Thu 09 Dec 1999, 02:01 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00570" HREF="msg00570.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fair/Unfair? Scenarios (fwd)</A></strong>, Mik Clarke <a href="mailto:mikclrk@attglobal.net">mikclrk@attglobal.net</a>, Thu 09 Dec 1999, 21:39 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00572" HREF="msg00572.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fair/Unfair? Scenarios (fwd)</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo@best.com">diablo@best.com</a>, Thu 09 Dec 1999, 22:46 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00581" HREF="msg00581.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fair/Unfair? Scenarios (fwd)</A></strong>, Greg Miller <a href="mailto:gmiller@classic-games.com">gmiller@classic-games.com</a>, Fri 10 Dec 1999, 16:28 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00568" HREF="msg00568.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fair/Unfair? Scenarios (fwd)</A></strong>, Mik Clarke <a href="mailto:mikclrk@attglobal.net">mikclrk@attglobal.net</a>, Thu 09 Dec 1999, 21:05 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00569" HREF="msg00569.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fair/Unfair? Scenarios (fwd)</A></strong>, Holly Sommer <a href="mailto:hsommer@micro.ti.com">hsommer@micro.ti.com</a>, Thu 09 Dec 1999, 21:39 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00574" HREF="msg00574.html">[MUD-Dev] Biosystems (was Fair/Unfair? Scenarios)</A></strong>, Richard Ross <a href="mailto:rross@rross.eurobell.co.uk">rross@rross.eurobell.co.uk</a>, Fri 10 Dec 1999, 00:53 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>