<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals twist --> <!--X-From-R13: X Q Znjerapr <pynjNpc.arg> --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:56:30 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: E11qo95-0001Gi-00#under,eng.cp.net --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 11A17AA2B9EAD111BCEA00A0C9B4179303D6DF20#molach,origin.ea.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals twist</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:claw#cp,net"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00503.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00505.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00476.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00489.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00504">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00504">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00504">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals twist</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals twist </LI> <LI><em>From</em>: J C Lawrence <<A HREF="mailto:claw#cp,net">claw#cp,net</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:56:27 -0800</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Tue, 23 Nov 1999 23:24:15 -0600 Koster, Raph <rkoster#origin,ea.com> wrote: > PK is merely an expression of these things. You state > "Unfortunately, the best most PVP guilds have managed to come up > with is "let's kill these guys, because they suck and we don't > like them". Yes... that does suck as a motive. Not all are that > shallow. But you can't rely on roleplay here--you have to actually > provide in-game motives to fight. cf functional roleplaying, which is what you're really discussing here. > Territory, as Shadowbane is trying, is probably a viable > solution. And one which UO tried as well, btw, cf the entire > Kazola saga which was essentially a war over a bit of > psychologically valuable territory--remember, in a virtual > setting, territory is really about mindshare. people fight for > publicity and fame, not for the alleged reason in the first place. And a perfectly drawn example of functional RP! > <---end quote Nicely written. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#kanga,nu ----------(*) Internet: coder#kanga,nu ...Honorary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00476" HREF="msg00476.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals twist</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "Koster, Raph" <rkoster#origin,ea.com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00503.html">[MUD-Dev] volunteerism on muds (fwd)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00505.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals twist</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00476.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals twist</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00489.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals twist</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00504"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00504"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals twist</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00473" HREF="msg00473.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals twist</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#cp,net">claw#cp,net</a>, Wed 24 Nov 1999, 03:35 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00475" HREF="msg00475.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals twist</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Wed 24 Nov 1999, 06:42 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00505" HREF="msg00505.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals twist</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#cp,net">claw#cp,net</a>, Thu 25 Nov 1999, 02:33 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00476" HREF="msg00476.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals twist</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Wed 24 Nov 1999, 06:42 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00504" HREF="msg00504.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals twist</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#cp,net">claw#cp,net</a>, Thu 25 Nov 1999, 01:56 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00489" HREF="msg00489.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals twist</A></strong>, Sellers, Michael <a href="mailto:MSellers#maxis,com">MSellers#maxis,com</a>, Wed 24 Nov 1999, 20:15 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00493" HREF="msg00493.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals twist</A></strong>, Chris Jones <a href="mailto:cjones#one,net">cjones#one,net</a>, Wed 24 Nov 1999, 21:35 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00506" HREF="msg00506.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals twist</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#cp,net">claw#cp,net</a>, Thu 25 Nov 1999, 02:36 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00495" HREF="msg00495.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals twist</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Wed 24 Nov 1999, 22:10 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>