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<H1>[MUD-Dev] Sony's EverQuest Admits Using Diku</H1>
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<LI><em>From</em>: "Locke" <<A HREF="mailto:theisles#mugs,net">theisles#mugs,net</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:27:14 -0500</LI>
<LI><em>Cc</em>: "Holly J. Sommer" <<A HREF="mailto:sommer#mugs,net">sommer#mugs,net</A>></LI>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Hello,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Tis a sad day for mudders! Read on for some important
information about Sony's EverQuest.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>This past weekend I had the pleasure of spending time in New
York City, visiting the New School University for a gaming conference, called
Re:Play. Among the guest speakers at the conference, there was Bernard
Yee, the Director of Product Development for Sony's EverQuest service.
Before the actual conference, there was a select group discussion the night
before where I and other students were able to participate in intimate
discussion with the speakers.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>During Bernard Yee's presentation, he framed the entire
demonstration by saying that Sony's EverQuest was based on DikuMUD -- which I
found at first flattering (being a member of the mudding community) and then
later, perplexing. Does the Diku Group know this? Have they been
compensated?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>If you've ever played EverQuest, it does resemble in many ways
Diku -- it has 'grouping' as well as 'shout' commands, and the actual way the
characters interact is very similar to what goes on in your standard Diku, with
a veneer of bad 3D graphics layered on top of the, ultimately, mud-like
interface.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Personally, I wouldn't mind it if Diku had been the base as
long as the Diku Group had made some money to fuel their own projects (aka Diku
][). However, I find it hard to believe that this has happened, and the
general demeanor of Mr. Yee was very disconcerting. He was deflecting of
comments or questions that were posed in a way that undermined his gaming
environment -- he ignored the hard questions and didn't really seem interested
in the mudding community at large. ("Oh, you know, I don't really
know that much about mudding, why don't you send me some email? Here's my
card.") So this brings two important questions to light: first,
have the Diku people been compensated fairly? Secondly, if not, will Diku
sue?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>-Locke</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>of The Isles</FONT></DIV>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00289" HREF="msg00289.html">[MUD-Dev] Sony's EverQuest Admits Using Diku</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00297" HREF="msg00297.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Sony's EverQuest Admits Using Diku</A></strong>,
rnicoll <a href="mailto:rnicoll@respc-jrn.res.st-andrews.ac.uk">rnicoll@respc-jrn.res.st-andrews.ac.uk</a>, Wed 17 Nov 1999, 17:20 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00314" HREF="msg00314.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Sony's EverQuest Admits Using Diku</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00396" HREF="msg00396.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Sony's EverQuest Admits Using Diku</A></strong>,
Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt <a href="mailto:hhs@cbs.dtu.dk">hhs@cbs.dtu.dk</a>, Fri 19 Nov 1999, 18:27 GMT
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