<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages for MUD drivers --> <!--X-From-R13: Xbrl Vrff <wbrlNxvgrarg.arg> --> <!--X-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:46:27 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 19991115192102.J4340#kitenet,net --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: E11nY0E-0006Ai-00#kanga,nu --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages for MUD drivers</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:joey#kitenet,net"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00262.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00265.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00259.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00268.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00264">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00264">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00264">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages for MUD drivers</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages for MUD drivers</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Joey Hess <<A HREF="mailto:joey#kitenet,net">joey#kitenet,net</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:21:02 -0800</LI> <LI><em>Mail-Followup-To</em>: mud-dev#kanga,nu</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>User-Agent</em>: Mutt/1.0i</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Laurent Bossavit wrote: > As my quest for the perfect M* server design continues (I've been a > deep lurker on the list for over one year, though some of you might > remember my interest at one time in porting LambdaMOO to Java (done, > but not the panacea I hoped)) I am more and more convinced that the > crucial parts are the underlying (implementation) and visible (world- > building) languages - ideally both being the same. I agree. That's one of the prime reasons I am writing perlmoo[1] in perl and letting it be extensible in perl. Using perl as the imeplementation and extention lanaguage gets me every item on your list except distributed processing. Perlmoo is a lambda-moo clone in philospohy. Every object in the moo is a first-class perl object (though it doesn't use anything akin to normal perl object inheritance). Every object method is a scrap of code stored in a property of the object, plus a cache of precompiled code that is what actually gets run (for speed). You can't stress the security requirement enough though. The lanaguage has to have a sandbox, so users can code in the moo without breaking out into the machine proper. -- see shy jo [1] <A HREF="http://kitenet.net/programs/perlmoo/">http://kitenet.net/programs/perlmoo/</A> _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00259" HREF="msg00259.html">[MUD-Dev] Languages for MUD drivers</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "Laurent Bossavit" <laurent#netdive,com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00262.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00265.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages for MUD drivers</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00259.html">[MUD-Dev] Languages for MUD drivers</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00268.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages for MUD drivers</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00264"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00264"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00266" HREF="msg00266.html">[MUD-Dev] Library news</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#cp,net">claw#cp,net</a>, Tue 16 Nov 1999, 05:12 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00259" HREF="msg00259.html">[MUD-Dev] Languages for MUD drivers</A></strong>, Laurent Bossavit <a href="mailto:laurent#netdive,com">laurent#netdive,com</a>, Tue 16 Nov 1999, 02:37 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00264" HREF="msg00264.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages for MUD drivers</A></strong>, Joey Hess <a href="mailto:joey#kitenet,net">joey#kitenet,net</a>, Tue 16 Nov 1999, 03:46 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00268" HREF="msg00268.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages for MUD drivers</A></strong>, bruce <a href="mailto:bruce#puremagic,com">bruce#puremagic,com</a>, Tue 16 Nov 1999, 05:49 GMT </LI> </UL> <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00265" HREF="msg00265.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages for MUD drivers</A></strong>, Cynbe ru Taren <a href="mailto:cynbe#muq,org">cynbe#muq,org</a>, Tue 16 Nov 1999, 05:12 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00256" HREF="msg00256.html">[MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, Ilya, Game Commandos <a href="mailto:Ilya#gamecommandos,com">Ilya#gamecommandos,com</a>, Tue 16 Nov 1999, 01:19 GMT <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00261" HREF="msg00261.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, Philip Loguinov -- Draymoor <a href="mailto:fibhufky#erols,com">fibhufky#erols,com</a>, Tue 16 Nov 1999, 02:37 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>