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<LI><em>Subject</em>: RE: Distribution schemes (was Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages for MUD drivers)</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: "Ian Macintosh" <<A HREF="mailto:iman#issystems,co.nz">iman#issystems,co.nz</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 07:48:25 +1300</LI>
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> Koster, Raph wrote:
> Sent: Friday, 19 November 1999 05:00
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> > From: Ian Macintosh [<A HREF="mailto:iman#issystems,co.nz">mailto:iman#issystems,co.nz</A>]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 8:49 PM
> >
> > You have a few properties on mobs. Thirst, Hunger,
> Fear. Now each
> > mob will only obey one 'drive' at a time. Each drive
> gets a chance to
> > calculate it's importance, and the one with the
> highest value wins.
> > That way, the thirstier an antelope gets, the closer
> and closer it
> > gets to the waterhole, even though it can see the
> lions. Finally, the
> > lions nail one of the antelope, and the rest get to drink.
> >
> Stop now. :) We went down this road with Ultima Online.
> With a model very
> similar to what you describe (though we used food,
> shelter, desire, taken
> from Maslow).
My focus is very much the bottom rung of Maslow. I don't plan go very
high either. Anything higher than base motivations are *real* AI, and
I'm not aiming there.
> Ask yourself whether anyone cares if an antelope falls
> in the woods if there
> is nobody there to see it. Then assess your design and
> ask yourself some
> tough questions about your objectives with the system.
The example I used was just generic to convey the idea. You are quite
right re the importance, and I'm steering clear of that like the
plague. I am just focusing on a more goal oriented, non-linear, event
driven approach to mob-progs than the traditional canned brain-dead
and puppet-like automation found everywhere else. I am trying to aim
for an opponent with smarts. About the highest I think I'll go on the
intelligence scale is a revenge motivation. I do want mobs to learn a
bit from experience as well, via a simple reward/punishment filter.
If I find it un-workable in practice, I'll just lobotomise the
ancestor object :^)
I must admit that some of the drive I have in playing in this area is
just plain fun, nice to fiddle with, I enjoy it stuff. On the cold
hearted business front, my only justification is seeing how hard I can
push the envelope.
Thanks for the advice :-)
Regards,
Ian.
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00325" HREF="msg00325.html">Distribution schemes (was Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages for MUD drivers)</A></strong>,
Bruce Mitchener, Jr. <a href="mailto:bruce#puremagic,com">bruce#puremagic,com</a>, Thu 18 Nov 1999, 00:22 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00353" HREF="msg00353.html">RE: Distribution schemes (was Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages for MUD drivers)</A></strong>,
Ian Macintosh <a href="mailto:iman#issystems,co.nz">iman#issystems,co.nz</a>, Thu 18 Nov 1999, 07:34 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00379" HREF="msg00379.html">Re: Distribution schemes (was Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages for MUD drivers)</A></strong>,
Mik Clarke <a href="mailto:mikclrk#attglobal,net">mikclrk#attglobal,net</a>, Thu 18 Nov 1999, 21:11 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00364" HREF="msg00364.html">RE: Distribution schemes (was Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages for MUD drivers)</A></strong>,
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Thu 18 Nov 1999, 17:00 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00403" HREF="msg00403.html">RE: Distribution schemes (was Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages for MUD drivers)</A></strong>,
Ian Macintosh <a href="mailto:iman#issystems,co.nz">iman#issystems,co.nz</a>, Fri 19 Nov 1999, 20:30 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00391" HREF="msg00391.html">Re: Distribution schemes (was Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages for MUD drivers)</A></strong>,
Bruce Mitchener, Jr. <a href="mailto:bruce#puremagic,com">bruce#puremagic,com</a>, Fri 19 Nov 1999, 01:23 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00395" HREF="msg00395.html">RE: Distribution schemes (was Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages for MUD drivers)</A></strong>,
Ian Macintosh <a href="mailto:iman#issystems,co.nz">iman#issystems,co.nz</a>, Fri 19 Nov 1999, 18:26 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00289" HREF="msg00289.html">[MUD-Dev] Sony's EverQuest Admits Using Diku</A></strong>,
Locke <a href="mailto:theisles#mugs,net">theisles#mugs,net</a>, Wed 17 Nov 1999, 16:31 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00297" HREF="msg00297.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Sony's EverQuest Admits Using Diku</A></strong>,
rnicoll <a href="mailto:rnicoll#respc-jrn,res.st-andrews.ac.uk">rnicoll#respc-jrn,res.st-andrews.ac.uk</a>, Wed 17 Nov 1999, 17:20 GMT
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