<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: RE: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals --> <!--X-From-R13: "Eryyref, [vpunry" <[EryyrefNznkvf.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:48:38 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: A538153C8E25D11192FA00805F1595950261259F@JETHRO --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, RE: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:MSellers#maxis,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00321.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00323.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00315.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00338.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00322">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00322">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00322">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>RE: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: "'<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>'" <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: RE: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Sellers, Michael" <<A HREF="mailto:MSellers#maxis,com">MSellers#maxis,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:39:01 -0800</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Philip Loguinov wrote: > From: Travis S. Casey <efindel#io,com> > > >On Tue, 15 Sep 1998, Philip Loguinov -- Draymoor wrote: > >> Ok, lets suppose that a mud world doesn't have any gods or other divine beings. > >> The admins would then have to find some kind of role in the world, which,with > >> the lack of any immortal beings, would have to be mortal, would it not? > > > >Why do the admins have to have a role in the world? They can exist as > >game-level admins without existing at the world-level, just as a paper RPG > >GM does. > > > >(It may be *useful* at times for them to be able to interact through a > >character, but that's something else -- it certainly isn't required.) > > Thats part just part of my definition of what imms are. I think of imms > (at least those that have any contact with the mortal population) as being > gods or other divine beings. Even without total roleplaying on the part of > the staff, anyone who wanted to interact IC with the players would have to > have some kind of mortal role. > > However, what i want to do is make it so that the staff are > true mortals with some powerful "magical" powers. Then make them the representatives of the unseen gods/political powers. This gives them a link with the player characters, access to power, and much needed "plausible deniability." If you go to the local head priest with a request, he says, "I'll take it up with our local patron diety and get back to you." Even if the player/admin behind the priest is the one who'll actually be doing the work, the other player doesn't need to know this -- maybe the admin has to get agreement with a few others before making a policy or code change, for example. That way, the players recognize the admin-priests as having in-game power but without the foreboding sense of them being gods, and without the responsibility-to-act-in-my-favor-right-now that too many players assume goes along with that. Mike Sellers _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00321.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Random numbers (was: Physics)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00323.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00315.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00338.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00322"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00322"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00296" HREF="msg00296.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals</A></strong>, Travis S. Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#io,com">efindel#io,com</a>, Wed 17 Nov 1999, 17:20 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00302" HREF="msg00302.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals</A></strong>, Mik Clarke <a href="mailto:mikclrk#attglobal,net">mikclrk#attglobal,net</a>, Wed 17 Nov 1999, 21:24 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00300" HREF="msg00300.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals</A></strong>, Philip Loguinov -- Draymoor <a href="mailto:fibhufky#erols,com">fibhufky#erols,com</a>, Wed 17 Nov 1999, 21:24 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00315" HREF="msg00315.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals</A></strong>, Philip Loguinov -- Draymoor <a href="mailto:fibhufky#erols,com">fibhufky#erols,com</a>, Wed 17 Nov 1999, 23:17 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00322" HREF="msg00322.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals</A></strong>, Sellers, Michael <a href="mailto:MSellers#maxis,com">MSellers#maxis,com</a>, Wed 17 Nov 1999, 23:48 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00338" HREF="msg00338.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals</A></strong>, PartyG2816 <a href="mailto:PartyG2816#aol,com">PartyG2816#aol,com</a>, Thu 18 Nov 1999, 01:33 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00270" HREF="msg00270.html">[MUD-Dev] Matrix</A></strong>, Laurent Bossavit <a href="mailto:laurent#netdive,com">laurent#netdive,com</a>, Tue 16 Nov 1999, 21:19 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00266" HREF="msg00266.html">[MUD-Dev] Library news</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#cp,net">claw#cp,net</a>, Tue 16 Nov 1999, 05:12 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00259" HREF="msg00259.html">[MUD-Dev] Languages for MUD drivers</A></strong>, Laurent Bossavit <a href="mailto:laurent#netdive,com">laurent#netdive,com</a>, Tue 16 Nov 1999, 02:37 GMT </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>