<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field --> <!--X-From-R13: X Q Znjerapr <pynjNpc.arg> --> <!--X-Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 17:29:20 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: E11ymCr-0003ID-00#under,eng.cp.net --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.BSF.4.21.9912161401360.23076-100000#shell9,ba.best.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:claw#cp,net"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00632.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00635.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00611.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00635.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00633">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00633">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00633">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field </LI> <LI><em>From</em>: J C Lawrence <<A HREF="mailto:claw#cp,net">claw#cp,net</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 17:29:17 -0800</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 14:06:43 -0800 (PST) Matthew Mihaly <diablo#best,com> wrote: > This is, unfortunately, quite impossible to do in my experience > unless your items are all very generic and exactly the same. For > instance, aside from the shortsword that newbies get if they go > through our newbie introduction, all armour and weapons within the > game (well, aside from a couple of resetting quest items) are > produced by players, and they all have individual stats attached > to them. Aggregating the items would require them to lose their > individuality. No, it would require them to lose the individuality being attached to a *specific* object. Look instead at the class of objects and the distribution of "individuality". Consider: You have 50 handmade short swords. They all have individual "unique" stats and other qualifiers. You put them in a pile in the corner of the room covered by a blanket, and then pull out a random sword. Do you really care that that sword was #438 and that its stats etc are XYZ, or would you be just s happy with a shortsword which had a generated set of stats which fit the basic distribution model? If so, you can then decay all the swords under the balnket back to ur-object swords and then instantiate them only as needed. > It's the same problem with most items in Achaea actually. Most > things decay with time (whether in your inventory or not), and > aggregating them requires losing individual decay times. I see little reason that a decay time need define a unique object. It merely defines an object as a member of a class of objects with similar decay stats. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#kanga,nu ----------(*) Internet: coder#kanga,nu ...Honorary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00635" HREF="msg00635.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Matthew Mihaly <diablo#best,com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00611" HREF="msg00611.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Matthew Mihaly <diablo#best,com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00632.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Combat systems</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00635.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00611.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00635.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00633"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00633"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00603" HREF="msg00603.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Thu 16 Dec 1999, 04:18 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00605" HREF="msg00605.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Thu 16 Dec 1999, 17:31 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00606" HREF="msg00606.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</A></strong>, Charles Hughes <a href="mailto:charles.hughes#bigfoot,com">charles.hughes#bigfoot,com</a>, Thu 16 Dec 1999, 20:56 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00611" HREF="msg00611.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Thu 16 Dec 1999, 22:15 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00633" HREF="msg00633.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#cp,net">claw#cp,net</a>, Fri 17 Dec 1999, 01:29 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00635" HREF="msg00635.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Fri 17 Dec 1999, 04:04 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00620" HREF="msg00620.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</A></strong>, Timothy Dang <a href="mailto:tdang#U,Arizona.EDU">tdang#U,Arizona.EDU</a>, Fri 17 Dec 1999, 00:21 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00610" HREF="msg00610.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</A></strong>, maddog <a href="mailto:maddog#best,com">maddog#best,com</a>, Thu 16 Dec 1999, 20:56 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00630" HREF="msg00630.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#cp,net">claw#cp,net</a>, Fri 17 Dec 1999, 01:09 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>