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<LI><em>From</em>: Greg Miller <<A HREF="mailto:gmiller#classic-games,com">gmiller#classic-games,com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 16:30:55 -0500</LI>
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Caliban Tiresias Darklock wrote:
> >Just for clarification... are you saying that any game that isn't
> >completely abstract is promising roleplaying?
>
> You have a distressing habit of taking *everything* to extremes.
Indeed, it's necessary to figure out where you draw the line, so I ask
about the extremes first.
>
> Most roleplaying games begin with a specific process. This process involves
> generating statistics, selecting your persona's type (race and/or
> profession), naming your persona, and acquiring initial equipment. After
> this process, you are placed in some location and -- turned loose. Some
> direction may be provided, but no goal is expressly dictated.
>
> When you duplicate this process, you have for all intents and purposes
> written a rather detailed contract with your players that you will provide
> a roleplaying game. When you don't, you're breaking that contract. It
is
> not reasonable to ask your players to detail and personify their
> characters, and then play them like faceless pieces on a game board.
Except that most muds don't really ask you to "personify" the character.
They ask for a race, roll some random numbers and dump you in a temple,
inn, or some such.
> If characters are intended to be faceless (as, in my own game, they more or
> less are), then don't give them faces. Make all of them the same. Make the
> process of acquiring one painless and quick. Then the non-roleplayer
As most muds do, since muds in general aren't implicitly about
role-playing.
gets
> into the game faster, and the roleplayer is pretty well aware that "soft"
> character development won't mean squat on this game.
It's been my experience that most role-players figure that out as soon
as they log in and don't find anything explicitly referencing
role-playing anywhere in the game.
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00075" HREF="msg00075.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] patents and muds</A></strong>,
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Fri 15 Oct 1999, 20:04 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00044" HREF="msg00044.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Relationship between pkers and monster AI?</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00078" HREF="msg00078.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Relationship between pkers and monster AI?</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00049" HREF="msg00049.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Relationship between pkers and monster AI?</A></strong>,
Greg Miller <a href="mailto:gmiller#classic-games,com">gmiller#classic-games,com</a>, Thu 14 Oct 1999, 18:07 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00053" HREF="msg00053.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Relationship between pkers and monster AI?</A></strong>,
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