<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Battle Systems --> <!--X-From-R13: Dvpuneq Ibbypbpx <YnHveNqvny.cvcrk.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 18:37:14 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 37FB019B.4208#dial,pipex.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.BSF.4.10.9910050018040.10876-100000#shell9,ba.best.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Battle Systems</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00024.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00026.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00023.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00014.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00025">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00025">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00025">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Battle Systems</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Battle Systems</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Richard Woolcock <<A HREF="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 01:00:27 -0700</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Matthew Mihaly wrote: > [snip] > My problem is with automated player vs. player combat, which I do think is > a joke. If you're not interested in making it require skill, then why > bother with it? [snip] > A good PvP combat system presents an absolutely excellent ladder of success > for players to climb up, and just putting the time in doesn't make you climb > up the ladder, unlike games where who wins seems to mainly depend on your xp > and equipment. It's also just plain fun, which is more than I can say for > automated combat systems that I've seen. Personally I stick with automated combat, but allow high customisation primarly before - but also after - combat has begun. My reasoning is that I want combat to be a test of strategy and counter-strategy rather than quake-like reflexes. And yes, a brand new character can defeat a long-term character if the former is using a particularly good strategy against the latter. Group combat becomes even more vicious. KaVir. _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00023" HREF="msg00023.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Battle Systems</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Matthew Mihaly <diablo#best,com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00024.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Attracting players</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00026.html">[MUD-Dev] ADMIN: For those with an interest in patterns</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00023.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Battle Systems</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00014.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Battle Systems</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00025"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00025"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Battle Systems</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00002" HREF="msg00002.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Battle Systems</A></strong>, Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt <a href="mailto:hhs#cbs,dtu.dk">hhs#cbs,dtu.dk</a>, Mon 04 Oct 1999, 18:54 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00006" HREF="msg00006.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Battle Systems</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Mon 04 Oct 1999, 18:54 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00017" HREF="msg00017.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Battle Systems</A></strong>, Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Tue 05 Oct 1999, 04:17 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00023" HREF="msg00023.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Battle Systems</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Tue 05 Oct 1999, 23:17 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00025" HREF="msg00025.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Battle Systems</A></strong>, Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Wed 06 Oct 1999, 01:37 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00014" HREF="msg00014.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Battle Systems</A></strong>, Christopher Allen <a href="mailto:GMFangs#ASMRB,org">GMFangs#ASMRB,org</a>, Mon 04 Oct 1999, 21:56 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00016" HREF="msg00016.html">[MUD-Dev] ADMIN: We should be back up now</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#varesearch,com">claw#varesearch,com</a>, Sat 02 Oct 1999, 08:27 GMT </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>