<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Public Domain Client --> <!--X-From-R13: Oaqerj Ivyfba <naqerjNnnnnnnnn.qrzba.pb.hx> --> <!--X-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 15:02:29 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199911222220.WAA02136@aaaaaaaa.demon.co.uk --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 3839BD29.7EA9B3B7@attglobal.net --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Public Domain Client</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:andrew@aaaaaaaa.demon.co.uk"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00453.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00456.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00453.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00484.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00454">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00454">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00454">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Public Domain Client</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Public Domain Client</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Andrew Wilson <<A HREF="mailto:andrew#aaaaaaaa,demon.co.uk">andrew#aaaaaaaa,demon.co.uk</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:20:28 +0000 (GMT)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Mik Clarke: > Andrew Wilson wrote: > > > > Take a look at tkMOO-light: > > > > <A HREF="http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/User/Andrew.Wilson/tkMOO-light/">http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/User/Andrew.Wilson/tkMOO-light/</A> > > Hmmm. Looks rather MOO specific. Can it be made to do anything > useful with a Son of a Diku? tkMOO-light's happiest speaking to line-mode servers, MOO and Cold servers are good examples of what I mean by 'line-mode'; every line sent from the server ends in CRLF. If your server uses prompts: By which name do you wish to be know:[cursor resting here] then the client's less happy. Although I recently fixed up a plugin that teaches tkMOO-light how to handle a ROM server; prompts, ansi-colour sequences, a mixture of CR and LFCR (you read that right) as end-of-line markers. > Do you have a reference to a definition of what cold text is? > I can't find anything of their strangely uninformative web site > beyond a mention that it exists and is very powerful. I don't follow Cold developments too closely these days and I'm not a spokesperson. <A HREF="http://web.cold.org/features.html">http://web.cold.org/features.html</A> Dynamic Text ColdCore defines ctext which is an internal abstraction of text. Using ctext ColdCore can quickly parse a document to HTML, Plain-Text or any other text format you desire. Um so, think XML or some similarly structured abstraction. On its own its barely readable garbage, but run it through a parser and pass the results to an object that can convert it into a more desirable output format and you have a single-source for online help-documents, HTML web-pages or even the PostScript hardcopy manual. Of course it's not just static documentation, you can use it for object descriptions too, with the output being generated afresh for each observer if necessary. You could visit somewhere like the Cold Dark and nose around to find out more. <A HREF="http://ice.cold.org/cold_servers/server?colddark">http://ice.cold.org/cold_servers/server?colddark</A> > Mik Cheers, Ay. Andrew.Wilson#cs,cf.ac.uk <A HREF="http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/User/Andrew.Wilson/">http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/User/Andrew.Wilson/</A> Voice/Fax: +44 (0) 1865 513 091 _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00453" HREF="msg00453.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Public Domain Client</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Mik Clarke <mikclrk@attglobal.net></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00453.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Public Domain Client</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00456.html">Re: Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] (no subject)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00453.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Public Domain Client</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00484.html">Re: Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] Public Domain Client</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00454"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00454"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Public Domain Client</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00432" HREF="msg00432.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Public Domain Client</A></strong>, Mik Clarke <a href="mailto:mikclrk@attglobal.net">mikclrk@attglobal.net</a>, Sun 21 Nov 1999, 22:18 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00444" HREF="msg00444.html">Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] Public Domain Client</A></strong>, Jeremy Music <a href="mailto:rezo@lords.com">rezo@lords.com</a>, Mon 22 Nov 1999, 18:55 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00445" HREF="msg00445.html">Re: Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] Public Domain Client</A></strong>, Andrew Wilson <a href="mailto:andrew@aaaaaaaa.demon.co.uk">andrew@aaaaaaaa.demon.co.uk</a>, Mon 22 Nov 1999, 20:10 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00453" HREF="msg00453.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Public Domain Client</A></strong>, Mik Clarke <a href="mailto:mikclrk@attglobal.net">mikclrk@attglobal.net</a>, Mon 22 Nov 1999, 21:43 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00454" HREF="msg00454.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Public Domain Client</A></strong>, Andrew Wilson <a href="mailto:andrew@aaaaaaaa.demon.co.uk">andrew@aaaaaaaa.demon.co.uk</a>, Mon 22 Nov 1999, 23:02 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00484" HREF="msg00484.html">Re: Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] Public Domain Client</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw@cp.net">claw@cp.net</a>, Wed 24 Nov 1999, 20:04 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00469" HREF="msg00469.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Public Domain Client</A></strong>, Laurent Bossavit <a href="mailto:bossavit@cybercable.fr">bossavit@cybercable.fr</a>, Tue 23 Nov 1999, 22:13 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00470" HREF="msg00470.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Public Domain Client</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw@cp.net">claw@cp.net</a>, Wed 24 Nov 1999, 01:34 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00479" HREF="msg00479.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Public Domain Client</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw@cp.net">claw@cp.net</a>, Wed 24 Nov 1999, 19:05 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>