<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: about MOO --> <!--X-From-R13: Urina <funabfNrf.pb.am> --> <!--X-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 17:14:11 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 19991120190851.A4875@es.co.nz --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 19991119141422.S25847@kitenet.net --> <!--X-Reference: 19991120013819.33134.qmail@phantasm.thekeep.org --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: about MOO</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:shanos@es.co.nz"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00427.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00424.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00478.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00422.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00426">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00426">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00426">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: about MOO</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: about MOO</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Gevan <<A HREF="mailto:shanos#es,co.nz">shanos#es,co.nz</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 19:08:51 +1300</LI> <LI><em>Mail-Followup-To</em>: mud-dev#kanga,nu</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Quoting Dan Root (dar#thekeep,org): > >There was once a disk based version of LambdaMOO, IIRC, though it may have > >never really gotten off the ground. > > Lots of talk, but I never saw any code, nor anyone who claimed to have it, > other than, as you mention, LPMOO, which is amusing, but not really the > right way to run a MOO. :) I hacked one up in a couple of afternoons a couple of years ago, then promptly threw the code away again because the MOO I was working on at the time didn't really need it -- it was just a bit of fun. I never bothered coming up with a good on-disk representation, so it was quite slow. (As I recall I just used the normal db object write/read code, which is text-based.) So I claim to have had *something*. Of course, I don't now. The internal db abstraction in 1.8.0ish LambdaMOO is just good enough to make it a lot easier than you might expect, particularly as most aquisition of an (internal) object pointer goes through a single function. Scatter a few unfind()s to match the find()s and you're, well, at least some of the way there (although not heading for stunning efficiency.) --k _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00414" HREF="msg00414.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] about MOO</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Joey Hess <joey@kitenet.net></LI></UL></LI> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00420" HREF="msg00420.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] about MOO</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Dan Root <dar@thekeep.org></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00427.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Sony's EverQuest Admits Using Diku</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00424.html">[MUD-Dev] Public Domain Client</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00478.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] about MOO</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00422.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] about MOO</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00426"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00426"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] about MOO</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00428" HREF="msg00428.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] about MOO</A></strong>, bruce <a href="mailto:bruce@puremagic.com">bruce@puremagic.com</a>, Sun 21 Nov 1999, 01:14 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00435" HREF="msg00435.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] about MOO</A></strong>, Dan Root <a href="mailto:dar@thekeep.org">dar@thekeep.org</a>, Sun 21 Nov 1999, 22:18 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00481" HREF="msg00481.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] about MOO</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw@cp.net">claw@cp.net</a>, Wed 24 Nov 1999, 19:26 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00478" HREF="msg00478.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] about MOO</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw@cp.net">claw@cp.net</a>, Wed 24 Nov 1999, 18:51 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00426" HREF="msg00426.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: about MOO</A></strong>, Gevan <a href="mailto:shanos@es.co.nz">shanos@es.co.nz</a>, Sun 21 Nov 1999, 01:14 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00422" HREF="msg00422.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] about MOO</A></strong>, maddog <a href="mailto:maddog@best.com">maddog@best.com</a>, Sat 20 Nov 1999, 02:39 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00423" HREF="msg00423.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] about MOO</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw@cp.net">claw@cp.net</a>, Sat 20 Nov 1999, 03:18 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00408" HREF="msg00408.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] about MOO</A></strong>, Laurent Bossavit <a href="mailto:bossavit@cybercable.fr">bossavit@cybercable.fr</a>, Fri 19 Nov 1999, 20:44 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00486" HREF="msg00486.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] about MOO</A></strong>, Bruce Mitchener, Jr. <a href="mailto:bruce@puremagic.com">bruce@puremagic.com</a>, Wed 24 Nov 1999, 20:15 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>