<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field --> <!--X-From-R13: X Q Znjerapr <pynjNpc.arg> --> <!--X-Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 17:09:19 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: E11yltU-00033w-00#under,eng.cp.net --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 11A17AA2B9EAD111BCEA00A0C9B4179303D6DFCD#molach,origin.ea.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:claw#cp,net"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00629.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00631.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00610.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00604.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00630">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00630">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00630">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field </LI> <LI><em>From</em>: J C Lawrence <<A HREF="mailto:claw#cp,net">claw#cp,net</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 17:09:16 -0800</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 09:29:11 -0600 Koster, Raph <rkoster#origin,ea.com> wrote: > J C Lawrence wrote: >> Its rather sad that UOL's limited world size and population >> density simply prevent hiding of objects in obscure locations. > Don't underestimate just how much people want to keep around that > serves no valid game purpose. Being able to stash it somewhere > where it won't be found isn't going to help you the admin any. :) Which is one of the reasons that I'm rather surprised that one of the larger commercial servers hasn't picked up on the idea of ur-objects yet. You just gradually decay such stashed objects back into increasingly generic objects (which consume less and less storage), and then finally true ur-objects which are merely pointers to a common definition. It poses rather jarring verisimilitude problems of course: But I know this was the Key to Krak last month when I stashed it! But I suspect the players would rapidly adapt, especially if it was combined with some sort of non-player based object recycler (cf the "thief" NPC in many games) that preyed particularly on long-stored objects. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#kanga,nu ----------(*) Internet: coder#kanga,nu ...Honorary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00605" HREF="msg00605.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "Koster, Raph" <rkoster#origin,ea.com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00629.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fair/Unfair? 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