<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry --> <!--X-From-R13: [vx Qynexr <zvxpyexNnggtybony.arg> --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 13:24:36 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 383320B4.FDD7CA00#attglobal,net --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199911171506.IAA06096@ami-cg.GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:mikclrk#attglobal,net"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00300.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00308.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00287.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00316.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00298">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00298">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00298">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Mik Clarke <<A HREF="mailto:mikclrk#attglobal,net">mikclrk#attglobal,net</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 20:40:04 +0000</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA wrote: > > [Ben Greear: > > > It was also interesting to see how the MUD-DEV project burned so bright, > > but flamed out so quickly. Too many indians, not enough chiefs, no > > benevolent dictator, and I think the fact that so few of us really want > > to work for others when we could implement our own thing killed it. > > We as a mud-developer community just seem too set in our ways, busy, > > or otherwise introverted to be able to collaborate on a meaningfull > > project. However, don't think I'm trying to preach: I know I wouldn't > > want to work on any server but my own either :) > > Hmm. A benevolent dictator might have helped. It would have had to have > been somone technically knowledgeable, but able to completely detach > themselves from their own opinions, and run with the perceived concensus. > And someone willing and able to put a fair amount of time into it. Sounds like it needs a project manager. Enough technical skill to tell fakery from reality, but mainly skills in managing people and getting results according to some sort of timetable. Programmers as a general rule do not make good project managers... Mik _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00316" HREF="msg00316.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Adam Wiggins <adam#angel,com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00287" HREF="msg00287.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00300.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Admins as Mortals</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00308.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Languages for MUD drivers</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00287.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00316.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00298"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00298"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00326" HREF="msg00326.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Thu 18 Nov 1999, 00:32 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00329" HREF="msg00329.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Thu 18 Nov 1999, 00:41 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00330" HREF="msg00330.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, Joey Hess <a href="mailto:joey#kitenet,net">joey#kitenet,net</a>, Thu 18 Nov 1999, 00:59 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00287" HREF="msg00287.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, cg <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Wed 17 Nov 1999, 16:31 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00298" HREF="msg00298.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, Mik Clarke <a href="mailto:mikclrk#attglobal,net">mikclrk#attglobal,net</a>, Wed 17 Nov 1999, 21:24 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00316" HREF="msg00316.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Wed 17 Nov 1999, 23:17 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00293" HREF="msg00293.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, Ilya, Game Commandos <a href="mailto:Ilya#gamecommandos,com">Ilya#gamecommandos,com</a>, Wed 17 Nov 1999, 17:17 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00313" HREF="msg00313.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, Ilya, Game Commandos <a href="mailto:Ilya#gamecommandos,com">Ilya#gamecommandos,com</a>, Wed 17 Nov 1999, 23:17 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00323" HREF="msg00323.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] code base inquiry</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Wed 17 Nov 1999, 23:48 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>