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<LI><em>From</em>: Travis Casey <<A HREF="mailto:efindel#io,com">efindel#io,com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 21:32:10 -0500</LI>
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On Friday, November 19, 1999, Jon A. Lambert wrote:
> I would note that the popularity of a driver is proportional to the
> availablity of complete or almost finished game worlds.
> In particular, the absence of hardcode or a softcode library that
> defines a minimum working set of game mechanics seems to
> be a limiting factor in interest rather than a world or areas.
> There seems to be a strong aversion toward designing a game
> and much less aversion to coding one.
Hmm... I'd say complete or almost finished game *systems* more than
worlds. Nightmare 3, for example, was a very popular mudlib for LPs,
but didn't give you much of a game world -- what it did give you was a
complete game *system*.
A lot of the people who set up "stock" muds seem to be builder
wannabes -- they don't want to design a *new* mud, they just want to
build some areas, and maybe add a few classes and races.
> The only thing that CoolMud lacks is the attentions of a mud game
> designer. There are even fewer of those than there are mud coders. >:->
Yep... I'll note that all the popular mud codebases seem to be stuck
in the late 70's or early 80's, as far as RPG design goes (speaking,
as I usually am, in terms of paper RPGs).
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<LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] about MOO</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00486" HREF="msg00486.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] about MOO</A></strong>,
Bruce Mitchener, Jr. <a href="mailto:bruce@puremagic.com">bruce@puremagic.com</a>, Wed 24 Nov 1999, 20:15 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00398" HREF="msg00398.html">[MUD-Dev] (no subject)</A></strong>,
Michael Seifert <a href="mailto:ms@pentia.dk">ms@pentia.dk</a>, Fri 19 Nov 1999, 18:27 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00421" HREF="msg00421.html">[MUD-Dev] (no subject)</A></strong>,
Ilya, Game Commandos <a href="mailto:Ilya@gamecommandos.com">Ilya@gamecommandos.com</a>, Sat 20 Nov 1999, 02:06 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00429" HREF="msg00429.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] (no subject)</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc@ix.netcom.com">jlsysinc@ix.netcom.com</a>, Sun 21 Nov 1999, 01:14 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00431" HREF="msg00431.html">Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] (no subject)</A></strong>,
Travis Casey <a href="mailto:efindel@io.com">efindel@io.com</a>, Sun 21 Nov 1999, 22:18 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00440" HREF="msg00440.html">Re: Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] (no subject)</A></strong>,
Dan Shiovitz <a href="mailto:dans@drizzle.com">dans@drizzle.com</a>, Mon 22 Nov 1999, 18:55 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00456" HREF="msg00456.html">Re: Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] (no subject)</A></strong>,
Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon@iaehv.nl">gryphon@iaehv.nl</a>, Mon 22 Nov 1999, 23:02 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00458" HREF="msg00458.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] (no subject)</A></strong>,
Mik Clarke <a href="mailto:mikclrk@attglobal.net">mikclrk@attglobal.net</a>, Tue 23 Nov 1999, 03:37 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00461" HREF="msg00461.html">Re[4]: [MUD-Dev] (no subject)</A></strong>,
Travis Casey <a href="mailto:efindel@io.com">efindel@io.com</a>, Tue 23 Nov 1999, 16:45 GMT
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