<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field --> <!--X-From-R13: X Q Znjerapr <pynjNxnatn.ah> --> <!--X-Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 21:36:43 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: E11zCX6-0007DY-00#dingo,kanga.nu --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: A538153C8E25D11192FA00805F15959502612672@JETHRO --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00662.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00664.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00661.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00510.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00663">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00663">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00663">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field </LI> <LI><em>From</em>: J C Lawrence <<A HREF="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 21:35:56 -0800</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 16:08:31 -0800 Sellers, Michael <MSellers#maxis,com> wrote: > JC wrote: >> Given a rand() function that will always return the same value >> for the same argument, yes. Without that you merely have a more >> expensive PRNG with odd distributions -- ie little to no gain. > Right. The ability to get the same PRN out of a PRNG given the > same seed can be extremely useful in a lot of ways, if it can be > shielded from the player. Aye. Given the obviousl lengths that UOL players went to empirically calculate and then graph the stat and result curves of UOL (there are hundreds of K of carefully tabulated results on the web), yes, this is important. Rephrasing: It is imperitive that the relationship between the seed value and the result of the rand() not be even slightly predictable. -- J C Lawrence Home: claw#kanga,nu ----------(*) Other: coder#kanga,nu --=| A man is as sane as he is dangerous to his environment |=-- _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00661" HREF="msg00661.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "Sellers, Michael" <MSellers#maxis,com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00662.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00664.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00661.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00510.html">[MUD-Dev] (fwd) Re: Artificial Language for MUD programmers</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00663"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00663"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>RE: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00648" HREF="msg00648.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</A></strong>, Sellers, Michael <a href="mailto:MSellers#maxis,com">MSellers#maxis,com</a>, Fri 17 Dec 1999, 23:00 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00653" HREF="msg00653.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#cp,net">claw#cp,net</a>, Fri 17 Dec 1999, 23:58 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00656" HREF="msg00656.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Sat 18 Dec 1999, 00:01 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00661" HREF="msg00661.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</A></strong>, Sellers, Michael <a href="mailto:MSellers#maxis,com">MSellers#maxis,com</a>, Sat 18 Dec 1999, 04:26 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00663" HREF="msg00663.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The grass is always greener in the other field</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Sat 18 Dec 1999, 05:36 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00510" HREF="msg00510.html">[MUD-Dev] (fwd) Re: Artificial Language for MUD programmers</A></strong>, claw <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Fri 26 Nov 1999, 19:06 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00503" HREF="msg00503.html">[MUD-Dev] volunteerism on muds (fwd)</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#cp,net">claw#cp,net</a>, Thu 25 Nov 1999, 01:47 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00502" HREF="msg00502.html">[MUD-Dev] Fair/Unfair? Scenarios (fwd)</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#cp,net">claw#cp,net</a>, Thu 25 Nov 1999, 00:51 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00508" HREF="msg00508.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fair/Unfair? Scenarios (fwd)</A></strong>, Mik Clarke <a href="mailto:mikclrk#attglobal,net">mikclrk#attglobal,net</a>, Thu 25 Nov 1999, 21:41 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>