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<LI><em>From</em>: "Koster, Raph" <<A HREF="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 17:57:56 -0600 </LI>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: msew [<A HREF="mailto:msew#trilogy,com">mailto:msew#trilogy,com</A>]
> Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 5:38 PM
> To: mud-dev#kanga,nu
> Subject: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"
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> So I was at the GDC road trip here in austin and attended the talk:
> "Managing Online Game Communities" by Gordon Walton from Origin.
You must have missed the earlier talk on the Laws of Online Gaming, which
originated from this list. :) I was there (though not speaking)... MUD-Dev's
URL was up on the board, too. I was at Gordon's too.
> His talk centered around how to deal with those 5-10% of
> players that are
> disruptive to the game. He didn't really give a good
> definition of what
> disruptive is but from hints in his talk it seemed to be
> players that were
> either just purely assholes and would go find someone and
> swear at them and
> call them racist things and just verbally berate them over and over.
It's whatever sorts of antisocial behavior are not explicitly allowed in
your game. EG, if your game is not about PvP, then PvPers are in that group.
If PvP is permissible, then they are acceptable players.
> His method of dealing with said disruptive player was to ban
> them. Account
> terminated.
Yep. :)
> Now it seems for those type of players that this seems to be the best
> way. (ie if you are a pure jerk 100% the time and have no socially
> redeeming values see ya!)
Each one of those can cost you ten players or more who quit over what was
done to them.
> As with all things I think there is a spectrum of jerkness.
> Of these 5-10%
> of the players that might be deemed "disruptive" I can't
> possibly imagine
> all of them having no social redeeming values at all. (if
> they are, our
> society is in deep trouble)
It works out at quite less than 5%. What he (we) use is a historical log of
incidents for every reported incident, and that we can can judge when
someone has crossed a line. Some sorts of offenses are "first strike" and
some are "three strikes"...
-Raph
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00144" HREF="msg00144.html">[MUD-Dev] IMP (Interactive Mud Protocol?)</A></strong>,
Philip Loguinov -- Draymoor <a href="mailto:fibhufky@erols.com">fibhufky@erols.com</a>, Mon 08 Nov 1999, 20:47 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00137" HREF="msg00137.html">[MUD-Dev] History of Online Gaming, part III</A></strong>,
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster@origin.ea.com">rkoster@origin.ea.com</a>, Mon 08 Nov 1999, 19:03 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00134" HREF="msg00134.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</A></strong>,
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster@origin.ea.com">rkoster@origin.ea.com</a>, Sat 06 Nov 1999, 00:44 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00136" HREF="msg00136.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</A></strong>,
msew <a href="mailto:msew@trilogy.com">msew@trilogy.com</a>, Mon 08 Nov 1999, 19:03 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00141" HREF="msg00141.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</A></strong>,
Charles Hughes <a href="mailto:charles.hughes@bigfoot.com">charles.hughes@bigfoot.com</a>, Mon 08 Nov 1999, 19:03 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00138" HREF="msg00138.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] players who "take away from the game"</A></strong>,
Sellers, Michael <a href="mailto:MSellers@maxis.com">MSellers@maxis.com</a>, Mon 08 Nov 1999, 19:03 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00132" HREF="msg00132.html">[MUD-Dev] ADMIN: Library goof</A></strong>,
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