<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: A little help --> <!--X-From-R13: Dvpuneq Ibbypbpx <YnHveNqvny.cvcrk.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:05:28 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 361192DC.3EBC#dial,pipex.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.SOL.3.96.980929143333.23359A-100000@sun-cc203 --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: A little help</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg01358.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01360.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg01356.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01357.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#01359">Author</A> | <A HREF="#01359">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#01359">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: A little help</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: A little help</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Richard Woolcock <<A HREF="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:09:32 -0700</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Ling wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Robert Woods wrote: > > > A method that I have seen that encourages this well is having different > > ranks of immortals, based on achievement. [snip] > I find this 'tried-and-tested' heirarchy ironic, given that most (large) > businesses strive for an open management style, as flat as is possible. > Bear in mind what management knowledge I know is from various lectures and > videos I've been forced to take in as opposed to first hand experience. An interesting approach I used on the first mud I helped to design (Eternal Confict) was to have levels 1-49 as normal 'mortal' levels and levels 50-100 as 'avatar' levels. Level 101 was Implementor, whilst level 100 'avatars' could be given various imm powers (including the ability to become truely immortal). This created a very flat immortal heirarchy, but proved somewhat unwieldy in the long run. God Wars went for 6 immortal levels, partitioned as follows: * Builder: Lowest level, basic stuff only (mainly for building). * Quest Maker: A few extra commands to help in running quests. * Enforcer: Watch over/help out the lower imms, help out players. * Judge: Most of the imms powers (without coded restrictions). * High Judge: As above, plus system commands (reboot, shutdown, etc). * Implementor: Top level. Note the gap between Enforcer and Judge - Anything below judge had many coded restrictions to help prevent cheating, thus to reach 'Judge' level required proving oneself trustworthy. Once again I found this system somewhat unwieldy, although for the opposite reasons as Eternal Conflict. The Dark City heirarchy is still not finalised, but currently looks like this: * Ambassador: Very basic stuff - guests from other muds who want to chat. * Builder: Terraforming commands. * Architect: As above + can allocate locations of world to builders. * Storyteller: Top level. I'm considering dropping the builders and Architects altogether, but for now I'll leave them in. It seems I've come a full circle back to where I started ;) I think the number of immortal levels really depends on how many immortals you have. KaVir. </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="01354" HREF="msg01354.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: A little help</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Ling <K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01358.html">[MUD-Dev] Mud adverts, was: ScryMUD is opening for Beta on Oct 1!</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01360.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: A little help</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01356.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: A little help</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01357.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: A little help</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#01359"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#01359"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01351" HREF="msg01351.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: A little help</A></strong>, Robert Woods <a href="mailto:rwoods#honors,unr.edu">rwoods#honors,unr.edu</a>, Tue 29 Sep 1998, 08:36 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01354" HREF="msg01354.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: A little help</A></strong>, Ling <a href="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk">K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk</a>, Tue 29 Sep 1998, 13:43 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01355" HREF="msg01355.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: A little help</A></strong>, Marc Bowden <a href="mailto:ryumo#merit,edu">ryumo#merit,edu</a>, Tue 29 Sep 1998, 14:14 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01356" HREF="msg01356.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: A little help</A></strong>, Ling <a href="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk">K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk</a>, Tue 29 Sep 1998, 15:02 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01359" HREF="msg01359.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: A little help</A></strong>, Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Tue 29 Sep 1998, 18:05 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="01357" HREF="msg01357.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: A little help</A></strong>, Michael.Willey <a href="mailto:Michael.Willey#abnamro,com">Michael.Willey#abnamro,com</a>, Tue 29 Sep 1998, 17:06 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01360" HREF="msg01360.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: A little help</A></strong>, Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt <a href="mailto:hhs#cbs,dtu.dk">hhs#cbs,dtu.dk</a>, Tue 29 Sep 1998, 18:08 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01364" HREF="msg01364.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: A little help</A></strong>, chris <a href="mailto:chris#realm,zfn.uni-bremen.de">chris#realm,zfn.uni-bremen.de</a>, Tue 29 Sep 1998, 19:11 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01368" HREF="msg01368.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: A little help</A></strong>, Marc Bowden <a href="mailto:ryumo#merit,edu">ryumo#merit,edu</a>, Tue 29 Sep 1998, 20:12 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>