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<LI><em>To</em>: Mud Dev Mailing list <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wire d Magazine...)</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: Marian Griffith <<A HREF="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 22:19:03 +0100 (BST)</LI>
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On Thu 30 Jul, J C Lawrence wrote:
> cat <cat#bga,com> wrote:
> > Instead of the interesting debate on whether or not it is or might
> > be truly "necessary" to strike someone to deal with problems in an
> > environment where combat and fighting aren't built into the code,
Personally I even think it is a questionable response in games that
-do- have combat built in, but perhaps that is just me.
> > the responses from various people drifted right back into the
> > question of whether it is or isn't necessary in an environment that
> > DOES have combat built in, and is in a setting (like medieval
> > fantasy) where combat is normal and expected. It seems this is the
> > only kind of setting people here really want to talk about.
> It is always easier to deal with familiar ground than foreign. This
> is no surprise. If there's a specific point you want discussed you
> need to play thead cop and constantly steer the discussion back to the
> topic of choice. The natural tendency is for each to tend to his own
> hobby horse.
*grin* which suggests this list is more like the newsgroups than most
are willing to admit...
> > I mean, really - isn't anyone else capable of seeing it as extremist
> > and ludicrous to think of striking people as universally necessary,
> > rather than just necessary in certain specific types of
> > environments? Besides Marian, that is.
*curtsey*
> Again, there are at least two base viewpoints; the macro and the micro
> vision:
> The VR service (or whatever collective term you want to apply to it)
> has a basic function.
> 1) You can look the the service as a collection of individual
> services each of which in its own arena has primacy with the service
> as acting as framework or backdrop for the collected sub-services.
> 2) You can also look at it such that the framework itself has the
> primacy and the component services are lesser-than if not individually
> almost insignificant.
> The contrast is between the VR service as a collection of features
> which happen to be collected (#1), or a world which happens to enclude
> features (#2). Do you use the VR service to take advantage of
> specific features or venues it offers (eg the Photography SIG), or do
> you use the VR service to manipulate and use the features it provides
> as building blocks or tools? What is yor focus? The internal
> feature/social_group/SIG/whatever, or the service/world as a whole and
> your function in it?
> They're not mutually exclusive of course, tho they are often treated
> as such.
I am sorry to ask this, but could you please rephrase this in plain
english (I know asking for plain dutch is a bit too much). I really
tried to understand what you try to say here but I am afraid I did
not succeed.
Marian
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00155" HREF="msg00155.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wire d Magazine...)</A></strong>,
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Fri 10 Jul 1998, 21:53 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00421" HREF="msg00421.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wire d Magazine...)</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 29 Jul 1998, 23:29 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00424" HREF="msg00424.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wire d Magazine...)</A></strong>,
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Thu 30 Jul 1998, 01:00 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00426" HREF="msg00426.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wire d Magazine...)</A></strong>,
Robert Woods <a href="mailto:rwoods#nebula,honors.unr.edu">rwoods#nebula,honors.unr.edu</a>, Thu 30 Jul 1998, 01:50 GMT
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Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Sat 01 Aug 1998, 21:57 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00116" HREF="msg00116.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wire d Magazine...)</A></strong>,
S. Patrick Gallaty <a href="mailto:pgallaty#acclaim,com">pgallaty#acclaim,com</a>, Thu 09 Jul 1998, 18:04 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00176" HREF="msg00176.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wire d Magazine...)</A></strong>,
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sat 11 Jul 1998, 23:06 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00193" HREF="msg00193.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wire d Magazine...)</A></strong>,
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Mon 13 Jul 1998, 18:51 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00199" HREF="msg00199.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wire d Magazine...)</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Tue 14 Jul 1998, 02:21 GMT
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