<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Ugh, IS Diablo a mud? --> <!--X-From-R13: "Rnzvba Epuhoreg" <mwvevnNgrknf.arg> --> <!--X-Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 16:57:57 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 003c01bde9a9$4732d360$9b03cfcf@Painland --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: Ugh, IS Diablo a mud?</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:zjiria#texas,net"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg01289.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01291.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg01283.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01099.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#01290">Author</A> | <A HREF="#01290">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#01290">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: Ugh, IS Diablo a mud?</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Ugh, IS Diablo a mud?</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Damion Schubert" <<A HREF="mailto:zjiria#texas,net">zjiria#texas,net</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 18:56:14 -0500</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> -----Original Message----- From: Kristen Koster <koster#eden,com> >Connecting to a Quake-like server: Are you going to have the expectation of >being able to go sit in a nice quiet corner with a friend and either plan your >upcoming strategies or talk about the movies or CDs? > >I doubt most people would have that expectation with Quake, Diablo and their >ilk. I'd also argue that the hardcore pk "muds" are nothing more than textually >presented "Quake" servers. Quake disqualifies itself, in my opinion, with it's lack of persistence of world traversion. Your average world may not have true world *persistence* - items may decay, the room may be collapsed until the area is revisited, or the game may be 'reset' once a day -- but in general, you can always go to every part of the world, unless there is an in-game reason which prevents you (i.e. you don't have the key to the ivory tower, etc). Quake, on the other hand, does not have persistence of world traversion. A server has 12 levels. But the server runs only one level at a time, and there's no way to go to another level, without taking all other players with you. You are, effectively, stuck in a tiny corner of the world, waiting the requisite 15 minutes for that corner of the world to replace itself with another. So, my question is, is this a good distinction, or am I at this point trying to find any handy rule to seperate Quake from Medievia? --damion </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01289.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Room descriptions</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01291.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Room descriptions</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01283.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Ugh, IS Diablo a mud?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01099.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#01290"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#01290"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: Ugh, IS Diablo a mud?</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="01274" HREF="msg01274.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Ugh, IS Diablo a mud?</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Sat 26 Sep 1998, 20:13 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01279" HREF="msg01279.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Ugh, IS Diablo a mud?</A></strong>, Kylotan <a href="mailto:kylotan#globalnet,co.uk">kylotan#globalnet,co.uk</a>, Sat 26 Sep 1998, 21:10 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01324" HREF="msg01324.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Ugh, IS Diablo a mud?</A></strong>, Jon Leonard <a href="mailto:jleonard#divcom,slimy.com">jleonard#divcom,slimy.com</a>, Mon 28 Sep 1998, 03:00 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01283" HREF="msg01283.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Ugh, IS Diablo a mud?</A></strong>, Damion Schubert <a href="mailto:zjiria#texas,net">zjiria#texas,net</a>, Sat 26 Sep 1998, 22:08 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01290" HREF="msg01290.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Ugh, IS Diablo a mud?</A></strong>, Damion Schubert <a href="mailto:zjiria#texas,net">zjiria#texas,net</a>, Sat 26 Sep 1998, 23:57 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01099" HREF="msg01099.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></strong>, S. Patrick Gallaty <a href="mailto:choke#sirius,com">choke#sirius,com</a>, Tue 22 Sep 1998, 22:02 GMT <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="01125" HREF="msg01125.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Wed 23 Sep 1998, 05:28 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01166" HREF="msg01166.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Wed 23 Sep 1998, 23:19 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01170" HREF="msg01170.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></strong>, James Wilson <a href="mailto:jwilson#rochester,rr.com">jwilson#rochester,rr.com</a>, Thu 24 Sep 1998, 00:24 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>