<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :) --> <!--X-From-R13: Pra Uerrne <terrneNploreuvtujnl.arg> --> <!--X-Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 22:15:32 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.LNX.3.96.980903211045.20295B-100000#shamen,cyberhighway.net --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199809030607.AAA27258#darklock,com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00938.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00940.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00961.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00930.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00939">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00939">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00939">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Ben Greear <<A HREF="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 22:12:04 -0700 (MST)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Caliban Tiresias Darklock wrote: > On 09:41 PM 9/2/98 -0700, I personally witnessed Ben Greear jumping up to say: > > > >So, who here is considering writing a server that talks (only) > >with a graphical client. And not just a web browser. I'm talking > >fully 3-d rendering with all the assembly (or whatever) that goes > >with it. > > You mean like Quake? <GDR> I spose..never played Quake. However, it would be heavily strategy oriented... I would try to model large scale battle (armies), personal combat (ship-to-ship), economic power...and of course all the normal politics that goes into a good MUD :) Think of it, perhaps, as a cross of Risk/Civilization/Quake and Star-Wars... > > I have some fundamental problems with the idea of this, namely that in > order to create a client and server that do this effectively, you have to > make some pretty severe tradeoffs in functionality. But that's a big hairy > religious issue, so I'll just leave it at saying "I don't think a graphical > client would appropriately or effectively support what I want to do." I will code to be useful on a PentiumII 400 Mhz...they will be passe by the time I could finish such a project. What tradeoffs do you see? > > And yes, a lot of people are discussing this sort of thing. I don't know > how seriously they're considering it, but I've often thought that it might > be very cool indeed to do something with an interface very much like > Dungeon Keeper -- you look at the world in a sort of 3D isomorphic view > most of the time, for perspective, but you can jump down into first-person > mode and get that full rendering effect. (Of course, DK's rendering is a > lot more like Doom than Quake... and honestly, the build interface is more > or less like Wolf3D.) > > It might be really cool to do a graphical/text client. Something where you > can have a text mode interface *and* a graphical interface. I'd like that a > lot. I'd be really impressed by it. I'd jump from mode to mode depending on > what I was doing. Hanging around chatting, use text mode. Exploring, use > isomorphic. Fighting, use first person. That would rock. I see no problem with having communication be text based, but other than that...its much harder to write a text world (I'm doing it now.). I think it might be easier to let the computer do all the work. Of course, I'm probably highly ignorant of the real work that goes into making the graphics work.. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Caliban Tiresias Darklock <caliban#darklock,com> | "I'm not sorry or > Darklock Communications <<A HREF="http://www.darklock.com/">http://www.darklock.com/</A>> | ashamed of who I > PGP Key AD21EE50 at <<A HREF="http://pgp5.ai.mit.edu/~bal/">http://pgp5.ai.mit.edu/~bal/</A>> | really am." > FREE KEVIN MITNICK! <<A HREF="http://www.kevinmitnick.com/">http://www.kevinmitnick.com/</A>> | - Charles Manson > > -- > MUD-Dev: Advancing an unrealised future. > Ben Greear (greear#cyberhighway,net) <A HREF="http://www.primenet.com/~greear">http://www.primenet.com/~greear</A> Author of ScryMUD: mud.primenet.com 4444 <A HREF="http://www.primenet.com/~greear/ScryMUD/scry.html">http://www.primenet.com/~greear/ScryMUD/scry.html</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00923" HREF="msg00923.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Caliban Tiresias Darklock <caliban#darklock,com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00938.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00940.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00961.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00930.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00939"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00939"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00953" HREF="msg00953.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Sat 05 Sep 1998, 01:23 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00959" HREF="msg00959.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Sat 05 Sep 1998, 03:35 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00960" HREF="msg00960.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Sat 05 Sep 1998, 04:06 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00961" HREF="msg00961.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Sat 05 Sep 1998, 05:59 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00939" HREF="msg00939.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Fri 04 Sep 1998, 05:15 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00930" HREF="msg00930.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>, Adam J. Thornton <a href="mailto:adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU">adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU</a>, Thu 03 Sep 1998, 15:41 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00940" HREF="msg00940.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Fri 04 Sep 1998, 05:22 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00942" HREF="msg00942.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Fri 04 Sep 1998, 05:39 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00966" HREF="msg00966.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sat 05 Sep 1998, 20:26 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>