<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: AR's idea database --> <!--X-From-R13: Xnzrf Ivyfba <wjvyfbaNebpurfgre.ee.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 06:59:43 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 98091909513502.04838@d185d1e96 --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.LNX.3.96.980919201823.465D-100000#andridys,ip.local --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: AR's idea database</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:jwilson#rochester,rr.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg01072.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01075.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg01071.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01070.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#01074">Author</A> | <A HREF="#01074">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#01074">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: AR's idea database</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>, Oliver Jowett <<A HREF="mailto:oliver#jowett,manawatu.planet.co.nz">oliver#jowett,manawatu.planet.co.nz</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: AR's idea database</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: James Wilson <<A HREF="mailto:jwilson#rochester,rr.com">jwilson#rochester,rr.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 09:07:24 -0400</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Sat, 19 Sep 1998, Oliver Jowett wrote: >Abandoned Reality's idea tracking system database is now accessible at: > ><A HREF="http://abandoned.org:4448/its">http://abandoned.org:4448/its</A> Lots of good stuff there. Some item-specific observations: #4096, on objects as spell repositories (<url: <A HREF="http://abandoned.org:4448/its/4096">http://abandoned.org:4448/its/4096</A>>) is along the lines of a magic system I sketched once, which was based on the system in Zelazny's second 'Amber' series. Also there was some talk in Dragon magazine about 'one-off' spells living in objects and dissipated by use. (The same article talked about 'spell objects' that allowed a mage to cast the same spell over and over without rememorization, which is of course only applicable in a vancian magic system.) This could be a good way to enable lower-level mages to participate a bit in the magic-item economy, although of course the big items would have to wait - balance is always a bit tricky when it comes to mages. #4014 (<url: <A HREF="http://abandoned.org:4448/its/4104">http://abandoned.org:4448/its/4104</A>> (and a parallel thread on the Armageddon board) pose an interesting problem: how can one properly model objects masking one another? The example given is of a cloak, where apparently the cloak is supposed to be masking everything else worn on the body. However, if one wears anything, something (be it your aureolae or your wife-beater shirt) will be masked to the degree by which the outer object masks it, which might not be a _perfect_ mask (imagine a halter top over chainmail). Also, presumably after a certain period of time and abuse a cloak would develop some holes, through which one's nudity, armor, glowing energy-body (anybody here see 'Cocoon'?), whatever, could be visible. This seems to be a complicated problem for the realists. #4105 <url: <A HREF="http://abandoned.org:4448/its/4105">http://abandoned.org:4448/its/4105</A>> reflects our previous discussions on memory. Here it is a limited example (Bob draws the sword of ass-kicking and thermonuclear decapitation. Bob pokes you amusingly with his sword.) but one which clearly extends to 'I know X, so I perceive Y differently'. The limited example is easy to fix with a first-impression/subsequent-impression distinction; the general problem is (I think) a candidate for double dispatch, i.e. Bob's perception of Y is a function of Bob's memory and Y's state, both of which change over time. James </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="01071" HREF="msg01071.html">[MUD-Dev] AR's idea database</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Oliver Jowett <oliver#jowett,manawatu.planet.co.nz></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01072.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Introducing the background hook</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01075.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Marian's Tailor vs. Psychopaths</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01071.html">[MUD-Dev] AR's idea database</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01070.html">[MUD-Dev] Admin</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#01074"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#01074"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01085" HREF="msg01085.html">[MUD-Dev] ADMIN: Digests are now functioning</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Sun 20 Sep 1998, 17:24 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="01084" HREF="msg01084.html">[MUD-Dev] Forced story line...</A></strong>, quzah [sotfhome] <a href="mailto:quzah#softhome,net">quzah#softhome,net</a>, Sun 20 Sep 1998, 16:27 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01086" HREF="msg01086.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Forced story line...</A></strong>, Marc Hernandez <a href="mailto:marc#jb,com">marc#jb,com</a>, Sun 20 Sep 1998, 20:31 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01071" HREF="msg01071.html">[MUD-Dev] AR's idea database</A></strong>, Oliver Jowett <a href="mailto:oliver#jowett,manawatu.planet.co.nz">oliver#jowett,manawatu.planet.co.nz</a>, Sat 19 Sep 1998, 09:10 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01074" HREF="msg01074.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: AR's idea database</A></strong>, James Wilson <a href="mailto:jwilson#rochester,rr.com">jwilson#rochester,rr.com</a>, Sat 19 Sep 1998, 13:59 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01070" HREF="msg01070.html">[MUD-Dev] Admin</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Sat 19 Sep 1998, 02:50 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="01068" HREF="msg01068.html">[MUD-Dev] Project: ROADS database of MUD-related papers?</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Sat 19 Sep 1998, 00:23 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="01067" HREF="msg01067.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Economics: Arrow's Impossibility Theorem</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Fri 18 Sep 1998, 23:31 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="01065" HREF="msg01065.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Marian's Tailor vs. Psychopaths</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Fri 18 Sep 1998, 21:10 GMT </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>