<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch --> <!--X-From-R13: f001tzhNabin.jevtug.rqh --> <!--X-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 09:56:24 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.PMDF.3.95.980806124706.541271095A-100000#nova,wright.edu --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 45760210#lostics,demon.co.uk --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00523.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00525.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00533.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00534.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00524">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00524">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00524">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: mud-dev <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</A></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 12:52:40 -0400 (EDT)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Ross Nicoll wrote: [...] > Reminds me of a thought I had for my MUD. The MUD, whenever we change anything > in the code (it's a Diku style MUD, most of the stuff is in code), obviously > has to go through a reboot. I was wandering about having the data for > connections written out with the database (with sanity checking on load, of > course, incase something goes wrong after the database is saved), then have > the server load the new binary over itself with one of the exec() functions. > > The player would get "The server is rebooting, please wait" or similar... I know of a couple of EoD derivatives that have a 'soft-boot'. They just recompile, then do a fork/exec. I imagine there are some more details to it (like making sure there are no other open files, etc), but the imps I talked to about it said it was a pretty straight forward change. I recall a figure of 'an afternoon's work' being quoted. *shrug* I believe they also tied that in with the crash-recovery. In case of a seg fault they catch the signal and do a gracefull soft-boot. I dunno if they put a counter/timer in it, to catch things like loading a certain p-file causing the seg-fault (which would send the server into a lovely infinite reboot cycle). -Greg </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00534" HREF="msg00534.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> "Ross Nicoll" <rnicoll#calmar-mud,com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00519" HREF="msg00519.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "Ross Nicoll" <rnicoll#calmar-mud,com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00523.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00525.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00533.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00534.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00524"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00524"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00526" HREF="msg00526.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></strong>, Holly Sommer <a href="mailto:hsommer#micro,ti.com">hsommer#micro,ti.com</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 17:06 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00528" HREF="msg00528.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></strong>, T. Alexander Popiel <a href="mailto:popiel#snugharbor,com">popiel#snugharbor,com</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 17:22 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00530" HREF="msg00530.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></strong>, Nathan F Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 18:17 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00533" HREF="msg00533.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></strong>, Ross Nicoll <a href="mailto:rnicoll#calmar-mud,com">rnicoll#calmar-mud,com</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 19:43 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00524" HREF="msg00524.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></strong>, s001gmu <a href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 16:56 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00534" HREF="msg00534.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></strong>, Ross Nicoll <a href="mailto:rnicoll#calmar-mud,com">rnicoll#calmar-mud,com</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 19:43 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01048" HREF="msg01048.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Tue 15 Sep 1998, 23:34 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00623" HREF="msg00623.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org">matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Mon 10 Aug 1998, 10:47 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00532" HREF="msg00532.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#mail,angel.com">adam#mail,angel.com</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 18:26 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>