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<LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 12:52:40 -0400 (EDT)</LI>
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On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Ross Nicoll wrote:

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&gt; Reminds me of a thought I had for my MUD. The MUD, whenever we change anything
&gt; in the code (it's a Diku style MUD, most of the stuff is in code), obviously
&gt; has to go through a reboot. I was wandering about having the data for
&gt; connections written out with the database (with sanity checking on load, of
&gt; course, incase something goes wrong after the database is saved), then have
&gt; the server load the new binary over itself with one of the exec() functions.
&gt; 
&gt; The player would get "The server is rebooting, please wait" or similar...

I know of a couple of EoD derivatives that have a 'soft-boot'.  They just
recompile, then do a fork/exec.  I imagine there are some more details to
it (like making sure there are no other open files, etc), but the imps I
talked to about it said it was a pretty straight forward change.  I recall
a figure of 'an afternoon's work' being quoted.  *shrug*

I believe they also tied that in with the crash-recovery.  In case of a
seg fault they catch the signal and do a gracefull soft-boot.  I dunno
if they put a counter/timer in it, to catch things like loading a certain
p-file causing the seg-fault (which would send the server into a lovely
infinite reboot cycle).

-Greg




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<LI><strong><A NAME="00526" HREF="msg00526.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></strong>, 
Holly Sommer <a href="mailto:hsommer#micro,ti.com">hsommer#micro,ti.com</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 17:06 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00528" HREF="msg00528.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></strong>, 
T. Alexander Popiel <a href="mailto:popiel#snugharbor,com">popiel#snugharbor,com</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 17:22 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00530" HREF="msg00530.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></strong>, 
Nathan F Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 18:17 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00533" HREF="msg00533.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></strong>, 
Ross Nicoll <a href="mailto:rnicoll#calmar-mud,com">rnicoll#calmar-mud,com</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 19:43 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00524" HREF="msg00524.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></strong>, 
s001gmu <a href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 16:56 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00534" HREF="msg00534.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></strong>, 
Ross Nicoll <a href="mailto:rnicoll#calmar-mud,com">rnicoll#calmar-mud,com</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 19:43 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01048" HREF="msg01048.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Tue 15 Sep 1998, 23:34 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00623" HREF="msg00623.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></strong>, 
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org">matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Mon 10 Aug 1998, 10:47 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00532" HREF="msg00532.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></strong>, 
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#mail,angel.com">adam#mail,angel.com</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 18:26 GMT
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