<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wire d Magazine...) --> <!--X-From-R13: Qnyvona Fverfvnf Rnexybpx <pnyvonaNqnexybpx.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 18:16:39 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199807300118.TAA16317#darklock,com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 007201bdbb4e$7b807020$b27f14cf#patrick,gric.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wire d M</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00424.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00426.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00423.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00432.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00425">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00425">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00425">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wire d Magazine...)</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wire d Magazine...) </LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Caliban Tiresias Darklock <<A HREF="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 18:13:03 -0700</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On 05:10 PM 7/29/98 -0700, I personally witnessed S. Patrick Gallaty jumping up to say: > >I do think that his point about this list being >primarily composed of competitive game designers is completely >correct, but that doesn't make him unwelcomed I would hope. I thought I'd take a moment here to say something that's been on my mind for the past couple of days. I don't think I've said this before, and it probably ought to be said. I really like this list. For all the minor gripes that you may be able to pull out about it, this list is just packed with active, thoughtful posters who really do have some brains up there. A whole lot of people on the list are or have worked with major names in the industry, and somehow they still find time to come in here with people like me who have never done anything that even the most liberal definition of 'commercially viable' would include. We have a list owner who isn't a big jerk, and in fact would be rather easily described as fair and reasonable, which is a real rarity these days. I've complained here and there about the sort of views and perspectives on the list. A lot of other people have complained about it. But I was reading some of the older messages on this list, and it occurred to me that virtually all of the people on it are people that I'm quite proud to be associated with. Sometimes we get wrapped up in complaining about things, and forget that there's a lot of really good stuff here. I've learned a lot on this list, and what really brought this up *here* is that no single poster has whacked me upside the head with something I really should have known all along more often than the good Doctor. I owe him a lot of thanks and a lot of credit; I wish I could offer him something in return, but he makes me feel pretty damn stupid every time he posts. And he's not the only one. A lot of the discussions on this list make my head spin. There are lots of smart people and thoughtful people and insightful people, and when you put it all together it is one hell of a fantastic resource. So here's a big round of applause for everyone on the list, and here's hoping it just gets better. </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00423" HREF="msg00423.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wire d Magazine...)</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "S. Patrick Gallaty" <choke#sirius,com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00424.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wire d Magazine...)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00426.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wire d Magazine...)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00423.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wire d Magazine...)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00432.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wire d Magazine...)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00425"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00425"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00454" HREF="msg00454.html">[MUD-Dev] (Fwd) **NOTICE REGARDING YOUR SEARCHLIGHT SOFTWARE**</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sun 02 Aug 1998, 05:45 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00457" HREF="msg00457.html">[MUD-Dev] OT: BBSs, etc (Was: (fwd) **NOTICE REGARDING YOUR SEARCHLIGHT ,SOFTWARE**)</A></strong>, s001gmu <a href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</a>, Mon 03 Aug 1998, 03:36 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00440" HREF="msg00440.html">[MUD-Dev] Unix vs NT and its relation to MUD environments.</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Sat 01 Aug 1998, 01:09 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00423" HREF="msg00423.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wire d Magazine...)</A></strong>, S. Patrick Gallaty <a href="mailto:choke#sirius,com">choke#sirius,com</a>, Thu 30 Jul 1998, 00:12 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00425" HREF="msg00425.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wire d Magazine...)</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Thu 30 Jul 1998, 01:16 GMT </LI> </UL> <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00432" HREF="msg00432.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wire d Magazine...)</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Thu 30 Jul 1998, 14:38 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00422" HREF="msg00422.html">No Subject</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 29 Jul 1998, 23:33 GMT <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="01091" HREF="msg01091.html">No Subject</A></strong>, Vladimir Prelovac <a href="mailto:tomcat#galeb,etf.bg.ac.yu">tomcat#galeb,etf.bg.ac.yu</a>, Tue 22 Sep 1998, 11:28 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01119" HREF="msg01119.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: spell design systems</A></strong>, Travis Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#polaris,net">efindel#polaris,net</a>, Wed 23 Sep 1998, 03:06 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>