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<H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</H1>
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<LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: "Matthew R. Sheahan" &lt;<A HREF="mailto:chaos#crystal,palace.net">chaos#crystal,palace.net</A>&gt;</LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:50:51 -0400 (EDT)</LI>
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Marian Griffith propagated a meme to the effect of:
&gt; Violence does not equate physical violence. It is the exertion of
&gt; power over somebody else.

you may wish to note that this, while popular in certain circles, is a
radical redefinition of the term violence and unlikely to be found relevant
by those who don't keep up with academic feminism.

it's actually a semantic game like the terms "progressive" and "regressive"
as they apply to taxation.  those were set up so that they would sound like
value judgments but their usage could be defended as technical.  this usage
of "violence" creates an incredible amount of the stuff all over the place,
from teachers instructing students to complete classwork, to managers making
work assignments, to RPG game masters declaring that an effect has occurred
to a player character.  but then one can pick and choose any of this
"violence" one likes and apply the term to it, which sounds like a strong
pejorative to people despite the fact that one has defined it into total
meaninglessness.  that's a media version of the political maneuver where you
criminalize every action and can then nail anyone you don't like however
hard you like.

								chiaroscuro


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<LI><strong><A NAME="00124" HREF="msg00124.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>, 
Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Thu 09 Jul 1998, 19:41 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00126" HREF="msg00126.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>, 
Holly Sommer <a href="mailto:hsommer#micro,ti.com">hsommer#micro,ti.com</a>, Thu 09 Jul 1998, 20:21 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00143" HREF="msg00143.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>, 
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Fri 10 Jul 1998, 05:46 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00284" HREF="msg00284.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>, 
Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Tue 21 Jul 1998, 21:19 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00286" HREF="msg00286.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>, 
Matthew R. Sheahan <a href="mailto:chaos#crystal,palace.net">chaos#crystal,palace.net</a>, Tue 21 Jul 1998, 21:52 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00288" HREF="msg00288.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>, 
Travis Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#polaris,net">efindel#polaris,net</a>, Tue 21 Jul 1998, 22:19 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00320" HREF="msg00320.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>, 
Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Thu 23 Jul 1998, 20:23 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00466" HREF="msg00466.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Mon 03 Aug 1998, 20:55 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00484" HREF="msg00484.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>, 
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Wed 05 Aug 1998, 07:38 GMT
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