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<LI><em>From</em>: Petri Virkkula <<A HREF="mailto:pvirkkul#iki,fi">pvirkkul#iki,fi</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 10:52:55 +0300 (EEST)</LI>
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>>>>> "Alex" == T Alexander Popiel <popiel#snugharbor,com> writes:
Alex> For reference, I only started Java two years ago, and before and
Alex> during that, I've been a big UNIX and C (_not_ C++) fan. Java is
Alex> not my first exposure to multithreading issues (I also do MUSHcode
Alex> which exhibits many of the same problems), but I generally view
Alex> multithreading in terms of the large amount of overhead it brings.
I have different view to multithreading. I used to be
programming embedded systems (smart card readers), and
multithreading (though we used term multitasking even though
there was only no address space and no memory protection
(80188/V20/V25/V30 does not have a MMU), except because the
code was in ROM) was very helpful to make the code more
modular, easier to read and often even faster.
There was, for example, a "task" (ie. a thread) making
different sound effects with buzzer. It received a request to
play sound pattern through single interface function. The task
was most of the time waiting on semaphore, but when it
received a request, it played the requested sound pattern
sequentially (buzzer on, sleep x milliseconds, buzzer off,
sleep y milliseconds, buzzer on, sleep z milliseconds, buzzer
off, and so on) without need to care about other tasks.
IMHO multithreaded program can be cleaner and more modularized
resulting code that can be tested more easily. That's enough
for me in most cases to use threads even if there is small
speed penalty.
Petri
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00652" HREF="msg00652.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</A></strong>,
T. Alexander Popiel <a href="mailto:popiel#snugharbor,com">popiel#snugharbor,com</a>, Tue 11 Aug 1998, 04:45 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00653" HREF="msg00653.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</A></strong>,
Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Tue 11 Aug 1998, 05:39 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00658" HREF="msg00658.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</A></strong>,
T. Alexander Popiel <a href="mailto:popiel#snugharbor,com">popiel#snugharbor,com</a>, Tue 11 Aug 1998, 15:05 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00676" HREF="msg00676.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</A></strong>,
Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Wed 12 Aug 1998, 04:33 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00656" HREF="msg00656.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</A></strong>,
Petri Virkkula <a href="mailto:pvirkkul#iki,fi">pvirkkul#iki,fi</a>, Tue 11 Aug 1998, 07:53 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00654" HREF="msg00654.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</A></strong>,
Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Tue 11 Aug 1998, 06:48 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00615" HREF="msg00615.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</A></strong>,
Petri Virkkula <a href="mailto:pvirkkul#iki,fi">pvirkkul#iki,fi</a>, Mon 10 Aug 1998, 05:57 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00600" HREF="msg00600.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</A></strong>,
James Wilson <a href="mailto:jwilson#rochester,rr.com">jwilson#rochester,rr.com</a>, Sun 09 Aug 1998, 23:54 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00603" HREF="msg00603.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</A></strong>,
T. Alexander Popiel <a href="mailto:popiel#snugharbor,com">popiel#snugharbor,com</a>, Mon 10 Aug 1998, 02:19 GMT
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