<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges --> <!--X-From-R13: Hnqvz Fxnpuraxb <igNserrubyq.pebpbqvyr.bet> --> <!--X-Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 22:57:00 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 35CE8BA9.18508AD0#freehold,crocodile.org --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199808100528.XAA03186@ami-cg.GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00613.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00615.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00612.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01055.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00614">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00614">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00614">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Vadim Tkachenko <<A HREF="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 00:56:57 -0500</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Chris Gray wrote: > > [Vadim Tkachenko:] > > [Double buffering:] > > >I could be wrong, but I wish it rest in piece - it was a performance > >tuning nightmare. Either your I/O theread hogs all the resources looping > >idle, waiting for the input, or it lags because of the wrong priority > >set or bad timing. > > > >For me, the blocking I/O and a possibility to interrupt it (exceptions) > >is a blessing. > > > >Comments, anyone? [acknowledged, skipped] > In general, the lack of proper asynchonous I/O is one of my strongest > complaints about UNIX. Would it change the perception if I say I forgot to mention that the only case I accept even the blocking I/O is in a thread dedicated to reading/writing the data? I guess, it may be considered as anvanced asynchronous I/O - I can process the data I read/write in the same thread I read/write it. Generally, what is it about, I guess, is half-sync/half-async design pattern described in the document reference to which was posted by Alex Oren (Design patterns for concurrent, parallel and distributed systems) - THANKS, Alex, it was great. Other thought is - how often do you need the *DUMB* asynchronous I/O - I mean, without a possibilty to process the data, as (if I remember it right) it happens in WinNT API? I've been working with that API for quite a while and honestly don't remember myself actively using it. > Chris Gray cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA -- Still alive and smile stays on, Vadim Tkachenko <vt#freehold,crocodile.org> -- UNIX _is_ user friendly, he's just very picky about who his friends are </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00612" HREF="msg00612.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Chris Gray <cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00613.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Ethernet NICS, maximum connections..mud testing.</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00615.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00612.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01055.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00614"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00614"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00600" HREF="msg00600.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</A></strong>, James Wilson <a href="mailto:jwilson#rochester,rr.com">jwilson#rochester,rr.com</a>, Sun 09 Aug 1998, 23:54 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00603" HREF="msg00603.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</A></strong>, T. Alexander Popiel <a href="mailto:popiel#snugharbor,com">popiel#snugharbor,com</a>, Mon 10 Aug 1998, 02:19 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00602" HREF="msg00602.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Mon 10 Aug 1998, 02:18 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00612" HREF="msg00612.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Mon 10 Aug 1998, 05:28 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00614" HREF="msg00614.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Mon 10 Aug 1998, 05:57 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01055" HREF="msg01055.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Thu 17 Sep 1998, 00:57 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01058" HREF="msg01058.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Thu 17 Sep 1998, 02:19 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01059" HREF="msg01059.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Thu 17 Sep 1998, 06:32 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00582" HREF="msg00582.html">[MUD-Dev] Fw: lurker emerges</A></strong>, James Wilson <a href="mailto:jwilson#rochester,rr.com">jwilson#rochester,rr.com</a>, Sun 09 Aug 1998, 15:26 GMT </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>