<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Ugh, IS Diablo a mud? --> <!--X-From-R13: Qnyvona Fverfvnf Rnexybpx <pnyvonaNqnexybpx.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 15:39:21 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199809222239.QAA08934#darklock,com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 11A17AA2B9EAD111BCEA00A0C9B41793EDBD83#forest,origin.ea.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: Ugh, IS Diablo a mud?</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg01103.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01105.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg01098.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01111.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#01104">Author</A> | <A HREF="#01104">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#01104">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: Ugh, IS Diablo a mud?</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Ugh, IS Diablo a mud?</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Caliban Tiresias Darklock <<A HREF="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 15:37:16 -0700</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On 04:24 PM 9/22/98 -0500, I personally witnessed Koster, Raph jumping up to say: > >The point made by Jag was that rebooting a Diku and starting a new game >of Diablo isn't really very different. Yet in my gut, I still think that >Diablo is not a mud, and a Diku is. Personally, I think everything which can be played in a multi-player environment with some individual character or group of characters is a MUD. The key to MUD is the term "Multi-User", and as a result anything which is played over a network with multiple players and involves some semblance of role-playing or role-assumption is a MUD in my eyes. So not only is Quake a MUD, *Doom* is a MUD. So is Warcraft. So is Dungeon Keeper. This isn't a popular view, I don't think. But that's my take on the issue. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Caliban Tiresias Darklock <caliban#darklock,com> | "I'm not sorry or Darklock Communications <<A HREF="http://www.darklock.com/">http://www.darklock.com/</A>> | ashamed of who I PGP Key AD21EE50 at <<A HREF="http://pgp5.ai.mit.edu/~bal/">http://pgp5.ai.mit.edu/~bal/</A>> | really am." FREE KEVIN MITNICK! <<A HREF="http://www.kevinmitnick.com/">http://www.kevinmitnick.com/</A>> | - Charles Manson </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="01094" HREF="msg01094.html">[MUD-Dev] Ugh, IS Diablo a mud?</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "Koster, Raph" <rkoster#origin,ea.com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01103.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: who are we?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01105.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01098.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Ugh, IS Diablo a mud?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01111.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Ugh, IS Diablo a mud?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#01104"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#01104"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="01231" HREF="msg01231.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Fri 25 Sep 1998, 19:35 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01379" HREF="msg01379.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:chattemp#ee,port.ac.uk">chattemp#ee,port.ac.uk</a>, Wed 30 Sep 1998, 11:40 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01094" HREF="msg01094.html">[MUD-Dev] Ugh, IS Diablo a mud?</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Tue 22 Sep 1998, 21:27 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01098" HREF="msg01098.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Ugh, IS Diablo a mud?</A></strong>, Marc Hernandez <a href="mailto:marc#jb,com">marc#jb,com</a>, Tue 22 Sep 1998, 21:51 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01104" HREF="msg01104.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Ugh, IS Diablo a mud?</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Tue 22 Sep 1998, 22:39 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01111" HREF="msg01111.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Ugh, IS Diablo a mud?</A></strong>, Ryan Prince <a href="mailto:jynx_ryn#mindless,com">jynx_ryn#mindless,com</a>, Wed 23 Sep 1998, 00:16 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01157" HREF="msg01157.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Ugh, IS Diablo a mud?</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 23 Sep 1998, 20:41 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01118" HREF="msg01118.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Ugh, IS Diablo a mud?</A></strong>, Andy Cink <a href="mailto:ranthor#earthlink,net">ranthor#earthlink,net</a>, Wed 23 Sep 1998, 03:01 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01145" HREF="msg01145.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Ugh, IS Diablo a mud?</A></strong>, Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Wed 23 Sep 1998, 17:49 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>