<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: UBE/high: Re: W IRED: Kilers have more fun --> <!--X-From-R13: [vxr Eryyref <zvxrNovtargjbex.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 01:38:03 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199808150837.DAA07533#rgate,ricochet.net --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 11A17AA2B9EAD111BCEA00A0C9B41793760A02#forest,origin.ea.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: UBE/high: Re: W IRED: Kilers have more fun</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:mike#bignetwork,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00733.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00735.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00731.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00758.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00734">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00734">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00734">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: UBE/high: Re: W IRED: Kilers have more fun</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: UBE/high: Re: W IRED: Kilers have more fun</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Mike Sellers <<A HREF="mailto:mike#bignetwork,com">mike#bignetwork,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 01:20:07 -0700</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> At 10:31 PM 8/14/98 -0500, Koster, Raph wrote in reply to Dr. Cat: [lots of good stuff snipped that I hope to come back to later...] >> > As for the stakes, they will continue to grow. I'm sure >> > we'll someday >> > have over a billion people online, and at that point the >> > value of having >> > things like a safe, clean, friendly Disney Online >> > environment will be >> > so high that companies like them will throw pretty hefty amount of >> > cash at figuring out ways to keep it safe. Ummm... this is closer than you might think, with only 10% of the figure you mentioned online. In the last 60 days, several "online community" companies (and I use that term reservedly, at arm's length holding my nose) have been sold for in excess of $100M combined. Some of these companies have no product, customers, or track record. From my spot checks, more than a few of them are utterly unaware of the perversity that awaits them, given how easy it is to do things on their sites that they'd rather a user not do (reading and changing your cookies, joining someone else's private space, etc.). Clearly though, the kinds of social or "virtual violence" that we see in MUDs are not endemic only to MUD players; this is part of the human condition. Keeping people feeling safe and happy in an online environment is task #1 -- though some of the folks behind these companies don't seem to grok that yet. Yes, that is an opportunity you smell. :-) >No question. I am talking about feasible now... there's no doubt in my >mind that someday the controlled environments, the Furcadias, will be >the MAJORITY of the virtual spaces. Agreed. What we may end up with is something like a role-playing environment without the embarrassment factor. -- Mike Sellers Chief Creative Officer The Big Network mike#bignetwork,com www.bignetwork.com Fun Is Good </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00731" HREF="msg00731.html">[MUD-Dev] RE: UBE/high: Re: W IRED: Kilers have more fun</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "Koster, Raph" <rkoster#origin,ea.com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00733.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Yet another update on threads and signals</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00735.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Marian's Tailor Problem</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00731.html">[MUD-Dev] RE: UBE/high: Re: W IRED: Kilers have more fun</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00758.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: UBE/high: Re: W IRED: Kilers have more fun</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00734"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00734"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: Question for the list (Semi-OT)</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00744" HREF="msg00744.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Question for the list (Semi-OT)</A></strong>, Oliver Jowett <a href="mailto:oliver#jowett,manawatu.planet.co.nz">oliver#jowett,manawatu.planet.co.nz</a>, Sun 16 Aug 1998, 00:00 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00755" HREF="msg00755.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Question for the list (Semi-OT)</A></strong>, Jon Leonard <a href="mailto:jleonard#divcom,slimy.com">jleonard#divcom,slimy.com</a>, Tue 18 Aug 1998, 00:48 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00748" HREF="msg00748.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Question for the list (Semi-OT)</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Sun 16 Aug 1998, 20:10 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00731" HREF="msg00731.html">[MUD-Dev] RE: UBE/high: Re: W IRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Sat 15 Aug 1998, 03:34 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00734" HREF="msg00734.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: UBE/high: Re: W IRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>, Mike Sellers <a href="mailto:mike#bignetwork,com">mike#bignetwork,com</a>, Sat 15 Aug 1998, 08:38 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00758" HREF="msg00758.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: UBE/high: Re: W IRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>, s001gmu <a href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</a>, Tue 18 Aug 1998, 00:48 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00825" HREF="msg00825.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: UBE/high: Re: W IRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Sun 23 Aug 1998, 10:42 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00730" HREF="msg00730.html">[MUD-Dev] Marian's Tailor Problem</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Sat 15 Aug 1998, 02:45 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00735" HREF="msg00735.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Marian's Tailor Problem</A></strong>, Brandon Cline <a href="mailto:brandon#sedona,net">brandon#sedona,net</a>, Sat 15 Aug 1998, 08:42 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>