<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Marian's Tailor vs. Psychopaths --> <!--X-From-R13: "Rnzvba Epuhoreg" <mwvevnNgrknf.arg> --> <!--X-Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 14:26:44 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 001b01bde994$2d8897c0$9b03cfcf@Painland --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: Marian's Tailor vs. Psychopaths</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:zjiria#texas,net"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg01280.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01282.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg01199.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01063.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#01281">Author</A> | <A HREF="#01281">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#01281">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: Marian's Tailor vs. Psychopaths</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Marian's Tailor vs. Psychopaths</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Damion Schubert" <<A HREF="mailto:zjiria#texas,net">zjiria#texas,net</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 16:25:24 -0500</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> -----Original Message----- From: Adam Wiggins <adam#angel,com> >> >> excuse me? "whitie" and "darkie"?!? >> the connection between RL racism and the traditional fantasy conceit of >> 'monstrous' races has never been expressed more clearly. > >Um, if racism bothers you, I'd say you'd best get the hell out of anything >related to computer games. I mean: your average fantasy book or mud is >generally focused largely on warring tribes of varying races that don't >get along too well. This has brought up some amount of debate in the commercial MUD space recently, when a developer from Asheron's Call told a webzine that they would not have 'traditional races' in their game (i.e. dwarves, elves, etc), because they felt that this racism in fantasy gaming was a black eye on the industry as a whole. Their solution to the problem? "Heritage groups", which were fundamentally humans with different skin tones. I personally suspect they simply realized that, once graphics are involved, it's a lot easier to do one race very well than to do more than one race in a half-assed manner. They also managed to keep other differences between the races (i.e. stat bonuses, etc) in the code, and downplay differences in art - very clever, although the whole racism thing was somewhat a bizarre path of thinking. --damion </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01280.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Unix is a mud (Re: Ugh, IS Diablo a mud?)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01282.html">[MUD-Dev]</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01199.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Marian's Tailor vs. Psychopaths</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01063.html">[MUD-Dev] Marian's Tailor vs. Psychopaths</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#01281"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#01281"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: Marian's Tailor vs. Psychopaths</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="01191" HREF="msg01191.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Marian's Tailor vs. Psychopaths</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Thu 24 Sep 1998, 14:53 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01196" HREF="msg01196.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Marian's Tailor vs. Psychopaths</A></strong>, Michael.Willey <a href="mailto:Michael.Willey#abnamro,com">Michael.Willey#abnamro,com</a>, Thu 24 Sep 1998, 18:36 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01197" HREF="msg01197.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Marian's Tailor vs. Psychopaths</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Thu 24 Sep 1998, 18:53 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01199" HREF="msg01199.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Marian's Tailor vs. Psychopaths</A></strong>, Michael.Willey <a href="mailto:Michael.Willey#abnamro,com">Michael.Willey#abnamro,com</a>, Thu 24 Sep 1998, 21:11 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01281" HREF="msg01281.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Marian's Tailor vs. Psychopaths</A></strong>, Damion Schubert <a href="mailto:zjiria#texas,net">zjiria#texas,net</a>, Sat 26 Sep 1998, 21:26 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01063" HREF="msg01063.html">[MUD-Dev] Marian's Tailor vs. Psychopaths</A></strong>, Hal Black <a href="mailto:hal#moos,ml.org">hal#moos,ml.org</a>, Fri 18 Sep 1998, 20:46 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01066" HREF="msg01066.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Marian's Tailor vs. Psychopaths</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Fri 18 Sep 1998, 22:16 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01069" HREF="msg01069.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Marian's Tailor vs. Psychopaths</A></strong>, James Wilson <a href="mailto:jwilson#rochester,rr.com">jwilson#rochester,rr.com</a>, Sat 19 Sep 1998, 01:15 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01089" HREF="msg01089.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Marian's Tailor vs. Psychopaths</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Mon 21 Sep 1998, 23:10 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>