<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges --> <!--X-From-R13: Hnqvz Fxnpuraxb <igNserrubyq.pebpbqvyr.bet> --> <!--X-Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 22:23:18 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 35CE83C9.62363952#freehold,crocodile.org --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199808100505.WAA06861#cashew,snugharbor.com.snugharbor.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00610.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00612.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00610.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00632.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00611">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00611">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00611">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Vadim Tkachenko <<A HREF="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 00:23:21 -0500</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> T. Alexander Popiel wrote: > > In message: <<A HREF="msg00607.html">35CE7173.7DEEBAEA#freehold,crocodile.org</A>> > Vadim Tkachenko <vt#freehold,crocodile.org> writes: > > [ Re: double-buffering and non-blocking I/O ] > > >I could be wrong, but I wish it rest in piece - it was a performance > >tuning nightmare. Either your I/O theread hogs all the resources looping > >idle, waiting for the input, or it lags because of the wrong priority > >set or bad timing. > > > >For me, the blocking I/O and a possibility to interrupt it (exceptions) > >is a blessing. > > > >Comments, anyone? > > Well, my comment would be that you've apparently only seen very > bad implementations of a perfectly reasonable technique. When > the I/O thread has no more work to do, it should go to sleep, > to be awakened by the next I/O completion. With proper signal > support, no busywait is needed, and bad timing is irrelevant > if you're acually getting the device notifications. I guess we differ in the definitions, or rather I'm ignorant about ones. Can you please give me a brief definition of a blocking and non-blocking I/O? The reason I ask is that I meant exactly what you said. -- Still alive and smile stays on, Vadim Tkachenko <vt#freehold,crocodile.org> -- UNIX _is_ user friendly, he's just very picky about who his friends are </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00632" HREF="msg00632.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> "T. Alexander Popiel" <popiel#snugharbor,com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00610" HREF="msg00610.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "T. 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Alexander Popiel <a href="mailto:popiel#snugharbor,com">popiel#snugharbor,com</a>, Mon 10 Aug 1998, 05:05 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00611" HREF="msg00611.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Mon 10 Aug 1998, 05:23 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00632" HREF="msg00632.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</A></strong>, T. Alexander Popiel <a href="mailto:popiel#snugharbor,com">popiel#snugharbor,com</a>, Mon 10 Aug 1998, 15:29 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00649" HREF="msg00649.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Tue 11 Aug 1998, 03:41 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00652" HREF="msg00652.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</A></strong>, T. Alexander Popiel <a href="mailto:popiel#snugharbor,com">popiel#snugharbor,com</a>, Tue 11 Aug 1998, 04:45 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00653" HREF="msg00653.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Tue 11 Aug 1998, 05:39 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>