<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list? --> <!--X-From-R13: "Oqnz X. Fubeagba" <nqnzNcubravk.Bevaprgba.SRG> --> <!--X-Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 19:14:03 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 19980922214724.D1218#flagstaff,Princeton.EDU --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199809222131.OAA03079#under,engr.sgi.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg01115.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01117.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg01115.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01122.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#01116">Author</A> | <A HREF="#01116">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#01116">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Adam J. Thornton" <<A HREF="mailto:adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU">adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 21:47:24 -0400</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Tue, Sep 22, 1998 at 02:31:19PM -0700, J C Lawrence wrote: > What is *YOUR* purpose and interest in this list? What would you > really like to get out of the list? What would you like to do with > the list? Some I know are here purely for the technical aspects of > server development (an area that has received little coverage on the > list of late): how to write performant networking code, how to tune > and design their data model, what the concerns and techniques are in > writing a MUD programming language ala LP/MOO/MUF/ColdC/etc. Others > I know are interested in hack'n'slash game design, RP, real virtual > world creation, etc. etc, etc, etc. I'm sending this to the whole list in the fond hope that someone might be interested. Me, I've been a long-tiome pen-and-paper RPGer. I've got playtesting credits from Steve Jackson Games and a single writing credit from Chaosium. I've been a programmer for, oh, a decade or so; very little of that has been spent writing games. And, I'm a little ashamed to say, I've never been a hardcore MUDder. I'm working on a design for a game, probably eventually (I hope) commercial (subscription-based, open-source client), which is like a MUD in a lot of ways but not at all in others. It's a very physics-light and RP-heavy sort of game where I hope to work out some of my theories about what kinds of social interaction make a game fun. In this crowd it's extremely unusual in that it is a great deal less simulationist than the norm. I'm building it from scratch, because nothing out there seems to do what I want to do; I'm using my own multiprocess/multithread design for the networking code, a tokenized parser based at least conceptually on Graham Nelson's Inform for in-game object manipulation, and something that looks suspiciously like NNTP for client resource acquisition. I haven't made up my mind on whether to use an XML DTD for my protocol or just roll my own. This list has been great--I've gotten some good technical suggestions on how to implement my networking model and some good arguments for using XML rather than a handrolled protocol. I haven't said much recently because the topics have been things that I haven't known anything about, and I've been working on my own stuff in areas I haven't felt like I needed to ask for help in. Adam -- adam#princeton,edu "There's a border to somewhere waiting, and a tank full of time." - J. Steinman </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="01095" HREF="msg01095.html">[MUD-Dev] META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> J C Lawrence <claw#under,engr.sgi.com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01115.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01117.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Spellchecking</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01115.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01122.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#01116"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#01116"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: META: who are we?</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="01388" HREF="msg01388.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: who are we?</A></strong>, Benjamin D. Wiechel <a href="mailto:strycher#toast,net">strycher#toast,net</a>, Wed 30 Sep 1998, 22:18 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01095" HREF="msg01095.html">[MUD-Dev] META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Tue 22 Sep 1998, 21:31 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01105" HREF="msg01105.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Tue 22 Sep 1998, 22:48 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01115" HREF="msg01115.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></strong>, Joel Kelso <a href="mailto:joel#ee,uwa.edu.au">joel#ee,uwa.edu.au</a>, Wed 23 Sep 1998, 01:44 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01116" HREF="msg01116.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></strong>, Adam J. Thornton <a href="mailto:adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU">adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU</a>, Wed 23 Sep 1998, 02:14 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01122" HREF="msg01122.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></strong>, Hal Black <a href="mailto:hal#moos,ml.org">hal#moos,ml.org</a>, Wed 23 Sep 1998, 03:59 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01165" HREF="msg01165.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 23 Sep 1998, 22:31 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01169" HREF="msg01169.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></strong>, James Wilson <a href="mailto:jwilson#rochester,rr.com">jwilson#rochester,rr.com</a>, Thu 24 Sep 1998, 00:15 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01193" HREF="msg01193.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Thu 24 Sep 1998, 17:57 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>