<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :) --> <!--X-From-R13: Hnqvz Fxnpuraxb <igNserrubyq.pebpbqvyr.bet> --> <!--X-Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 21:06:37 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 35F0B8D2.6C40DBC3#freehold,crocodile.org --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.LNX.3.96.980904202830.24348A-100000#shamen,cyberhighway.net --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00959.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00961.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00959.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00961.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00960">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00960">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00960">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Vadim Tkachenko <<A HREF="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 23:06:42 -0500</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Ben Greear wrote: > > On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Vadim Tkachenko wrote: > > > Ben Greear wrote: > > > > [skipped] > > > > > One issue I was working on: each object must have a unique identifier > > > across the entire universe of servers. This is for permanent storage > > > problems, ie DB key, however you do your DB. I will use a unique ID > > > for each server, and increment a 64 bit number on the server itself. > > > > ... which reminds me a story about IP numbers and IPv6. Don't you think > > it's funny? > > > > > If it wraps..well, then the game is over, big bang kinda thing! :) > > > > I didn't read anything on IPv6 (just because there's no motivation > > currently), but remember hearing that it has variable length address. Is > > it true? Do you think you can engage this kind of solution? > > It has 128 bit addressing. I'm using an int for the host id, so I can > always increment it (I doubt I'll use up that space) if it's ever a > problem. > > > But anyway, I guess, all I said doesn't fit nicely into the relational > > DB. > > Been thinking about using a DB as opposed to writing my own single > minded DB. One thing, would be nice not to have to write one, but > at the same time, I can't easily require ppl to install a DB on their > system, especially cross platform. I guess would there be a good object-oriented database engine, people woul've been using it already :-((( > Right now, I'm leaning towards coding my own..as I have to do a bunch > of encoding work anyway to get the mobile objects to work across > servers. (ie, encode...put-on-socket...decode) ... which, again, reminds me of the way I do it: I have transaction-oriented protocol adapters on top of stream-oriented. Just today was solving a problem - how to support the streaming request (in my particular case, it's backup or restore) over such architecture without penetrating the transaction/stream border. And getting back to the topic, 'implements java.io.Serializable', huh? Do you use/plan CORBA? RMI? Does anyone have a first-hand experience with comparing those two? Related question (off the top of my head, so that's just a thought aloud): is Java serialized stream documented? (guess so) What is a cost of cross-platform (mean cross-language and big/little endian (or it's always network order?)) serialization engine? (guess VERY HIGH) > Ben Greear (greear#cyberhighway,net) <A HREF="http://www.primenet.com/~greear">http://www.primenet.com/~greear</A> -- Still alive and smile stays on, Vadim Tkachenko <vt#freehold,crocodile.org> -- UNIX _is_ user friendly, he's just very picky about who his friends are </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00961" HREF="msg00961.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Ben Greear <greear#cyberhighway,net></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00959" HREF="msg00959.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Ben Greear <greear#cyberhighway,net></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00959.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00961.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00959.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00961.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00960"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00960"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00929" HREF="msg00929.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>, Adam J. Thornton <a href="mailto:adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU">adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU</a>, Thu 03 Sep 1998, 15:23 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00941" HREF="msg00941.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Fri 04 Sep 1998, 05:30 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00953" HREF="msg00953.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Sat 05 Sep 1998, 01:23 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00959" HREF="msg00959.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Sat 05 Sep 1998, 03:35 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00960" HREF="msg00960.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Sat 05 Sep 1998, 04:06 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00961" HREF="msg00961.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Sat 05 Sep 1998, 05:59 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00939" HREF="msg00939.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Fri 04 Sep 1998, 05:15 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00930" HREF="msg00930.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>, Adam J. Thornton <a href="mailto:adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU">adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU</a>, Thu 03 Sep 1998, 15:41 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00940" HREF="msg00940.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Fri 04 Sep 1998, 05:22 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>