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<LI><em>From</em>: Vadim Tkachenko &lt;<A HREF="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</A>&gt;</LI>
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Ben Greear wrote:
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&gt; On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Vadim Tkachenko wrote:
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&gt; &gt; Ben Greear wrote:
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&gt; &gt; [skipped]
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; One issue I was working on:  each object must have a unique identifier
&gt; &gt; &gt; across the entire universe of servers.  This is for permanent storage
&gt; &gt; &gt; problems, ie DB key, however you do your DB.  I will use a unique ID
&gt; &gt; &gt; for each server, and increment a 64 bit number on the server itself.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; ... which reminds me a story about IP numbers and IPv6. Don't you think
&gt; &gt; it's funny?
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; If it wraps..well, then the game is over, big bang kinda thing! :)
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; I didn't read anything on IPv6 (just because there's no motivation
&gt; &gt; currently), but remember hearing that it has variable length address. Is
&gt; &gt; it true? Do you think you can engage this kind of solution?
&gt; 
&gt; It has 128 bit addressing.  I'm using an int for the host id, so I can
&gt; always increment it (I doubt I'll use up that space) if it's ever a
&gt; problem.
&gt; 
&gt; &gt; But anyway, I guess, all I said doesn't fit nicely into the relational
&gt; &gt; DB.
&gt; 
&gt; Been thinking about using a DB as opposed to writing my own single
&gt; minded DB.  One thing, would be nice not to have to write one, but
&gt; at the same time, I can't easily require ppl to install a DB on their
&gt; system, especially cross platform.

I guess would there be a good object-oriented database engine, people
woul've been using it already :-(((

&gt; Right now, I'm leaning towards coding my own..as I have to do a bunch
&gt; of encoding work anyway to get the mobile objects to work across
&gt; servers.  (ie, encode...put-on-socket...decode)

... which, again, reminds me of the way I do it: I have
transaction-oriented protocol adapters on top of stream-oriented. Just
today was solving a problem - how to support the streaming request (in
my particular case, it's backup or restore) over such architecture
without penetrating the transaction/stream border. And getting back to
the topic, 'implements java.io.Serializable', huh? Do you use/plan
CORBA? RMI? Does anyone have a first-hand experience with comparing
those two?

Related question (off the top of my head, so that's just a thought
aloud): is Java serialized stream documented? (guess so) What is a cost
of cross-platform (mean cross-language and big/little endian (or it's
always network order?)) serialization engine? (guess VERY HIGH)

&gt; Ben Greear (greear#cyberhighway,net)  <A  HREF="http://www.primenet.com/~greear">http://www.primenet.com/~greear</A>

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<LI><strong><A NAME="00929" HREF="msg00929.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>, 
Adam J. Thornton <a href="mailto:adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU">adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU</a>, Thu 03 Sep 1998, 15:23 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00941" HREF="msg00941.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>, 
Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Fri 04 Sep 1998, 05:30 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00953" HREF="msg00953.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>, 
Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Sat 05 Sep 1998, 01:23 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00959" HREF="msg00959.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>, 
Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Sat 05 Sep 1998, 03:35 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00960" HREF="msg00960.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>, 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00961" HREF="msg00961.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>, 
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