<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Room descriptions --> <!--X-From-R13: X Q Znjerapr <pynjNhaqre.rate.ftv.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:39:17 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199809282239.PAA08785#under,engr.sgi.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.SGI.3.96.980928152630.3666D-100000#zazu,angel.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: Room descriptions</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg01339.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01341.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg01339.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01385.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#01340">Author</A> | <A HREF="#01340">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#01340">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: Room descriptions</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Room descriptions </LI> <LI><em>From</em>: J C Lawrence <<A HREF="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:39:02 -0700</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Adam Wiggins<adam#angel,com> wrote: > On Mon, 28 Sep 1998, Koster, Raph wrote: >> From: Adam Wiggins [<A HREF="mailto:adam#angel,com">mailto:adam#angel,com</A>] >>> Rather than walking through an interactive world, as I had been >>> led to believe, I was actually walking between props much like >>> those fake buildings they used in the old Hollywood westerns. >> I had the same experience, of course. I imagine we all did. But I >> would not call the goal of having a fully interactive environment >> even necessarily contradictory to what I am discussing. You can >> have a fully interactive environment that still imposes a >> perspective or a worldview on the player, I would think. > On this particular point I don't think I can agree. In the end, > if someone detonates a nuclear bomb inside your candy store it's > still going to have the same roomdesc. Right, you need to have objects and locations built from defined component materials with externally defined transformation paths to get it done right. > I don't think this sort of constructed world will ever be > interactive in the way that I'm thinking; it will always be a > sophisticated Zork spinoff, which is to say you only have the > interactions which are coded by whoever created the area. Bingo. > Other than that, I agree with all your other points including the > main one. I could see a whole new genre of muds spinning off from > this sort of thing, especially with free user creation > (LegendMOO?). Rhetorical question: _Now_ do you see why I'm such a fan of user programming? -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#null,net (Contractor) Internet: coder#ibm,net ---------(*) Internet: claw#under,engr.sgi.com ...Honourary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="01385" HREF="msg01385.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Room descriptions</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Nathan F Yospe <yospe#hawaii,edu></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="01339" HREF="msg01339.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Room descriptions</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Adam Wiggins <adam#angel,com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01339.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Room descriptions</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01341.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Room descriptions</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01339.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Room descriptions</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01385.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Room descriptions</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#01340"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#01340"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: Room descriptions</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="01319" HREF="msg01319.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Room descriptions</A></strong>, apocalypse <a href="mailto:apocalypse#pipeline,com">apocalypse#pipeline,com</a>, Mon 28 Sep 1998, 01:11 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01331" HREF="msg01331.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Room descriptions</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Mon 28 Sep 1998, 14:07 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01337" HREF="msg01337.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Room descriptions</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Mon 28 Sep 1998, 20:34 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01339" HREF="msg01339.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Room descriptions</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Mon 28 Sep 1998, 22:26 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01340" HREF="msg01340.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Room descriptions</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Mon 28 Sep 1998, 22:39 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01385" HREF="msg01385.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Room descriptions</A></strong>, Nathan F Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Wed 30 Sep 1998, 20:34 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01386" HREF="msg01386.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Room descriptions</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Wed 30 Sep 1998, 21:30 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01392" HREF="msg01392.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Room descriptions</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 01 Oct 1998, 00:08 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01394" HREF="msg01394.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Room descriptions</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Thu 01 Oct 1998, 01:09 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>