<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list? --> <!--X-From-R13: Xnzrf Ivyfba <wjvyfbaNebpurfgre.ee.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:15:31 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 98092320073100.11427@d185d1e96 --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199809232145.OAA01905#under,engr.sgi.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:jwilson#rochester,rr.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg01168.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01171.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg01165.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01193.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#01169">Author</A> | <A HREF="#01169">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#01169">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: James Wilson <<A HREF="mailto:jwilson#rochester,rr.com">jwilson#rochester,rr.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:45:57 -0400</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Wed, 23 Sep 1998, J C Lawrence wrote: >On Wed, 23 Sep 1998 00:20:08 -0400 >Hal Black<hal#moos,ml.org> wrote: > >> On Tue, Sep 22, 1998 at 02:31:19PM -0700, J C Lawrence wrote: > >> I have an LP background. > >Knowing a little of the background data of our subscriber list, the >membership appear to be almost evenly spread between the >DIKU/LP/Tiny-* camps. While I haven't done a breakdown against who >has posting authority, I wouldn't be surprised if the DIKU camp pips >ahead there as (and this is supported by Usenet) they appear to be >more vocal. > >Note: I don't fall into the DIKU, LP, or the Tiny-* camps. If >anything, and this is equally misleading, I'm an Aber recluse. I also am 'none of the above'. (I hate them all - not their engines, their aesthetics. But nobody asked, so I'll shut up.) >> I think this issue ties in tightly with the education issue. If >> there is a means for people to read good, organized articles about >> the state of the art, as opposed to reading threads and trying to >> follow the issue, then I think this does a lot for bringing >> everyone up to speed (myself included). I would love to see >> something like a MUD 101 textbook (electronic, of course), which >> would be self-contained - given knowledge of procedural and >> object-oriented programming. I know it would certainly be a good >> resource for me. > >There have been several thread summaries made by list members >(Marian, Lambert, etc) which have been posted to the list. I will >be getting these up on the web, but suitable archive searches may be >useful ITMT. > >Other than that -- want to start writing such a 101 text?. I volunteer to assist with any such effort. You also mentioned the various scenarios: > It would be great if someone undertook the task of collecting a list > of the various scenarios, their names, the reasons for their > existance, their solutions, the weaknesses of their solutions etc.. This, as well as a '101' or 'Mud Programming Encyclopedia', would be quite useful. They could (should) also be cross-refenced back to the list archives, pointing to relevant threads. Should such a thing live on kanga.nu itself? Or would it be better to put it elsewhere? I have access to some space on a stable web server, but I don't think they provide anything beyond the basic access (e.g. searches would be nice). >> Another benefit I find is when someone says something succinctly >> or puts a label on something, which in turn brings together a lot >> of loose ideas that I had been thinking about previously into a >> coherent whole. > >I'm sure Koster would appreciate assistance in collecting such >'laws' in cogent form. maybe we can add this to the '101' project . >J C Lawrence Internet: claw#null,net >(Contractor) Internet: coder#ibm,net >---------(*) Internet: claw#under,engr.sgi.com >...Honourary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... what exactly does this "Teamer's" stuff mean anyways? James </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="01193" HREF="msg01193.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> J C Lawrence <claw#under,engr.sgi.com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="01165" HREF="msg01165.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> J C Lawrence <claw#under,engr.sgi.com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01168.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Legend's speech system and moods</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01171.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: let's call it a spellcraft</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01165.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01193.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#01169"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#01169"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="01115" HREF="msg01115.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></strong>, Joel Kelso <a href="mailto:joel#ee,uwa.edu.au">joel#ee,uwa.edu.au</a>, Wed 23 Sep 1998, 01:44 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01116" HREF="msg01116.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></strong>, Adam J. Thornton <a href="mailto:adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU">adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU</a>, Wed 23 Sep 1998, 02:14 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01122" HREF="msg01122.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></strong>, Hal Black <a href="mailto:hal#moos,ml.org">hal#moos,ml.org</a>, Wed 23 Sep 1998, 03:59 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01165" HREF="msg01165.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 23 Sep 1998, 22:31 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01169" HREF="msg01169.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></strong>, James Wilson <a href="mailto:jwilson#rochester,rr.com">jwilson#rochester,rr.com</a>, Thu 24 Sep 1998, 00:15 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01193" HREF="msg01193.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Thu 24 Sep 1998, 17:57 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01172" HREF="msg01172.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Thu 24 Sep 1998, 00:41 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01174" HREF="msg01174.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Thu 24 Sep 1998, 02:22 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01176" HREF="msg01176.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: What are you looking for in this list?</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Thu 24 Sep 1998, 04:25 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>