<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Output Classification Notes, version 061098 --> <!--X-From-R13: Hnqvz Fxnpuraxb <igNserrubyq.pebpbqvyr.bet> --> <!--X-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 21:41:26 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 35A6ECD9.7EFA46B1#freehold,crocodile.org --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.LNX.3.96.980710000544.232B-100000@localhost --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: Output Classification Notes, version 061098</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00161.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00163.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00140.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00167.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00162">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00162">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00162">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: Output Classification Notes, version 061098</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Output Classification Notes, version 061098</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Vadim Tkachenko <<A HREF="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 23:40:57 -0500</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Mike L Kesl wrote: > > . o O ( Output Classification ) O o . > (mlkesl 061098) > > Problem: The server needs to send different types of output in different ways > Goals: Provide client support beyond the standard 'dumb' telnet client. > > In order to be able to provide multiple clients in the most efficient way > I suggest we classify the server's output. In other words different types > of output will be sent in different ways, using the same method names of > course, but that is irrelevant for the non coders. My solution was to implement a sort of meta-messages which can be interpreted by the protocol adaptor and visualized in a right way by the client > I can think of the following, each line representing a separate type: > > Aural (messages from sentients mostly) "Johan says 'Greetings'" > > Visual (stuff you see, room desc, items, etc) "The sun goes down." > > Action (Action you experience in some way) "You slice the blob." > > Server (out of character info from server) "SHUTDOWN IN 5 MINUTES" > > Prompt (the player defined prompt) "32/45hp 20/20ma opp:blob" > > Map (the overhead map, ascii or tilemap) tile images or ascii block > > Format (color, text formatting) ansi color / html stuff > Image (pictures of course, with text equiv.) tilemaps / items / people Why don't you just say "OK, there's a message formed like <tag><message-body> and define <tag> somewhere else - it doesn't have to be something predefined. By the way, reminds me of RFC-822 - did anybody here use anything like that to deliver the messages to the smart clients? :-) > One system I have been considering is to just use special prefixes before > output to distinguish it and all the client to do the work, parsing the > output's prefix and deciding where it goes from there. This option still > requires a list of the output types however, and that is the main function > of this document. Using this system the dumb telnet connection would > simply have the prefixes stripped. Not sure about this implementation. This, in turn, reminds me of MIME multipart/mixed between the meta-message producer and the protocol adaptor. Maybe it's absurd, but come on, MIME content handler would be pretty reusable, I guess? > Mike Kesl :) -- Still alive and smile stays on, Vadim Tkachenko <vt#freehold,crocodile.org> -- UNIX _is_ user friendly, he's just very picky about who his friends are </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00140" HREF="msg00140.html">[MUD-Dev] Output Classification Notes, version 061098</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Mike L Kesl <mlkesl#cpinternet,com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00161.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wired Magazine...)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00163.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00140.html">[MUD-Dev] Output Classification Notes, version 061098</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00167.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Output Classification Notes, version 061098</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00162"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00162"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00142" HREF="msg00142.html">[MUD-Dev] Universe Design Notes, version 061098</A></strong>, Mike L Kesl <a href="mailto:mlkesl#cpinternet,com">mlkesl#cpinternet,com</a>, Fri 10 Jul 1998, 05:32 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00463" HREF="msg00463.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Universe Design Notes, version 061098</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Mon 03 Aug 1998, 20:20 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00465" HREF="msg00465.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Universe Design Notes, version 061098</A></strong>, s001gmu <a href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</a>, Mon 03 Aug 1998, 20:38 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00140" HREF="msg00140.html">[MUD-Dev] Output Classification Notes, version 061098</A></strong>, Mike L Kesl <a href="mailto:mlkesl#cpinternet,com">mlkesl#cpinternet,com</a>, Fri 10 Jul 1998, 05:03 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00162" HREF="msg00162.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Output Classification Notes, version 061098</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Sat 11 Jul 1998, 04:41 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00167" HREF="msg00167.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Output Classification Notes, version 061098</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Sat 11 Jul 1998, 21:35 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00462" HREF="msg00462.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Output Classification Notes, version 061098</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Mon 03 Aug 1998, 20:06 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00139" HREF="msg00139.html">[MUD-Dev] My "mud" server, A.T.O.M. and the coming design notes</A></strong>, Mike L Kesl <a href="mailto:mlkesl#cpinternet,com">mlkesl#cpinternet,com</a>, Fri 10 Jul 1998, 04:21 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00133" HREF="msg00133.html">[MUD-Dev] MapMaker</A></strong>, S. Patrick Gallaty <a href="mailto:choke#sirius,com">choke#sirius,com</a>, Thu 09 Jul 1998, 23:55 GMT </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>