<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: UBE/high: Re: FW: UBE/high: Re: W IRED: Kilers --> <!--X-From-R13: [nevna Uevssvgu <telcubaNvnrui.ay> --> <!--X-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 03:42:30 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Marcel-1.46-0822203708-d07Ky&5#catling,demon.nl --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 001a01bdcd7c$79fffbe0$9303cfcf@Painland --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: UBE/high: Re: FW: UBE/high: Re: W IRED: Kilers</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00823.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00825.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00806.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00811.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00824">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00824">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00824">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: UBE/high: Re: FW: UBE/high: Re: W IRED: Kilers</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: Mud Dev Mailing list <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: UBE/high: Re: FW: UBE/high: Re: W IRED: Kilers</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Marian Griffith <<A HREF="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 21:37:08 +0100 (BST)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Sat 22 Aug, Damion Schubert wrote: > From: Brandon J. Rickman <ashes#pc4,zennet.com> > >The second priority is basically to take the fun out of player combat. > Pretty much, if any feature is not 'any fun', then my personal > belief is that you shouldn't waste your time coding it. Ah, but this is going to be quite effective. ;) > Tangential note: on most MUDs, fighters aren't the problem. At > least my experience has found that mages and thieves tend > to be the best (worst) player killers. Do we take the fun out of > these skills too? =) On muds classes are not the problem. It is certain players that are the problem. And then it is still a question of numbers, as Bartle pointed out. I do not entirely agree with the later but for the type of game he described you need a certain small number of disruptive characters to initiate activities. Only slightly too many though and your whole social structure collapses in a bloodbath. > >The easiest route to learning how to fight may well be by becoming a > >tailor. If a tailor suffers from attacks and extortion he would quickly > >gain the resolve to fight back if he chose. (But then there is more > >potential for drama, for unexpected twists and character development.) I am not sure Brandon said the above, I could not find it in his post If a tailor suffers from attacks and extortion she has two options at the moment. Quit playing or quit being a tailor. You seem to advocate the second solution. But of course it is not a solution at all. In either case you end up with a game without tailors. Marian -- Yes - at last - You. I Choose you. Out of all the world, out of all the seeking, I have found you, young sister of my heart! You are mine and I am yours - and never again will there be loneliness ... Rolan Choosing Talia, Arrows of the Queen, by Mercedes Lackey </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00806" HREF="msg00806.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: UBE/high: Re: FW: UBE/high: Re: W IRED: Kilers</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "Damion Schubert" <zjiria#texas,net></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00823.html">[MUD-Dev] [off-topic] Email</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00825.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: UBE/high: Re: W IRED: Kilers have more fun</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00806.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: UBE/high: Re: FW: UBE/high: Re: W IRED: Kilers</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00811.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: UBE/high: Re: FW: UBE/high: Re: W IRED: Kilers</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00824"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00824"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: UBE/high: Re: FW: UBE/high: Re: W IRED: Kilers</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00916" HREF="msg00916.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: UBE/high: Re: FW: UBE/high: Re: W IRED: Kilers</A></strong>, Brandon J. Rickman <a href="mailto:ashes#pc4,zennet.com">ashes#pc4,zennet.com</a>, Thu 03 Sep 1998, 02:05 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00850" HREF="msg00850.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: UBE/high: Re: FW: UBE/high: Re: W IRED: Kilers</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Wed 26 Aug 1998, 04:09 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00783" HREF="msg00783.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: UBE/high: Re: FW: UBE/high: Re: W IRED: Kilers</A></strong>, Scatter <a href="mailto:scatter#thevortex,com">scatter#thevortex,com</a>, Thu 20 Aug 1998, 09:49 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00806" HREF="msg00806.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: UBE/high: Re: FW: UBE/high: Re: W IRED: Kilers</A></strong>, Damion Schubert <a href="mailto:zjiria#texas,net">zjiria#texas,net</a>, Sat 22 Aug 1998, 03:19 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00824" HREF="msg00824.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: UBE/high: Re: FW: UBE/high: Re: W IRED: Kilers</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Sun 23 Aug 1998, 10:42 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00811" HREF="msg00811.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: UBE/high: Re: FW: UBE/high: Re: W IRED: Kilers</A></strong>, quzah <a href="mailto:quzah#geocities,com">quzah#geocities,com</a>, Sat 22 Aug 1998, 08:11 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00928" HREF="msg00928.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: UBE/high: Re: FW: UBE/high: Re: W IRED: Kilers</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Thu 03 Sep 1998, 15:03 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00756" HREF="msg00756.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: UBE/high: Re: FW: UBE/high: Re: W IRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>, S. Patrick Gallaty <a href="mailto:patrick#gric,com">patrick#gric,com</a>, Tue 18 Aug 1998, 00:48 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00743" HREF="msg00743.html">[MUD-Dev] Question for the list (Semi-OT)</A></strong>, Nathan F Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Sat 15 Aug 1998, 23:27 GMT </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>