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<LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI>
<LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Question regarding Java threads</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: "Jon A. Lambert" &lt;<A HREF="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</A>&gt;</LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 23:14:12 -5</LI>
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On  5 Aug 98, Ben Greear wrote:
&gt; On Wed, 5 Aug 1998, Jon A. Lambert wrote:
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&gt; &gt; A bit back we we discussing the upper limits of Java threads on 
&gt; &gt; various platforms.   Much of the concern, especially in regard to 
&gt; &gt; Java, was the one thread per connection issue.  Can anyone comment on 
&gt; &gt; the following hardware(?) issue raised here? 
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; --cut from rgma --
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; By the way, your P2-233 will choke with 200 active users.  Interrupt
&gt; &gt; overflow from the NIC.  You could solve this problem with a $500 NIC
&gt; &gt; that doesn't interrupt the CPU as much(has its own processor,) but
&gt; &gt; then you'll have to ban char mode telnet outright and do some other
&gt; &gt; unfriendly things too, and I just don't know that you're going to find
&gt; &gt; 200 simultaneous players anyway; few muds do, so unless you become one
&gt; &gt; of them, it isn't worth the time, money, and effort to prepare for:)
&gt; 
&gt; I'm not convinced he is right.  Perhaps if you are using a sorry driver
&gt; and or sorry NIC...
&gt; 
&gt; For grins, I'm gonna work on some scripts to max my mud out...
&gt; 
&gt; I'll let you know how it goes....
&gt; 

Nod.  It's my gut feeling that a small capacity card would find 
itself in a wait state before flooding the CPU with interrupts.  Then 
again, I have very little experience in the network card area.  

I've got a fairly old card on this machine, DEC Etherworks LC/TP 
(DE-101?) and it's in a 400mhz MMX P2.  Dunno if this card will
cause problems.  It doesn't with 5 users &lt;grin&gt;

 

 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00514" HREF="msg00514.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Question regarding Java threads</A></strong>, 
Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 06:06 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00518" HREF="msg00518.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Question regarding Java threads</A></strong>, 
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 14:04 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00509" HREF="msg00509.html">[MUD-Dev] Question regarding Java threads</A></strong>, 
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 03:26 GMT
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Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 06:01 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00535" HREF="msg00535.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Question regarding Java threads</A></strong>, 
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Fri 07 Aug 1998, 04:53 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00527" HREF="msg00527.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Question regarding Java threads</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 17:11 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00622" HREF="msg00622.html">[MUD-Dev] RE: Question regarding Java threads</A></strong>, 
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org">matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Mon 10 Aug 1998, 10:42 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00644" HREF="msg00644.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Question regarding Java threads</A></strong>, 
Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Tue 11 Aug 1998, 02:39 GMT
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