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<H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</H1>
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<LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI>
<LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: "Jon A. Lambert" <<A HREF="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 23:37:24 -5</LI>
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On 9 Jul 98, Matthew R. Sheahan wrote:
> Jon A. Lambert propagated a meme to the effect of:
> > I assume that self-governance refers to extending the capabilities of
> > Player governance. It's the nature of these "posited" mechanisms
> > that interests me. :)
>
> once upon a time, i had planned out a system of "player government"
> which centered around mayoral and law-enforcement figures for the
> various settlements which function as player homelands, and so on.
> very PC, with elections and so forth, and the only real driving force
> behind it being control of PK.
A player run police force. Many of the systems of seen in this vein
are dependent on the game system automatically "marking" certain
characters as killers. And fail when the mayor or otherwise honest
citizen is "marked" by the system as a killer. There is only a
built-in automated "direction". Obstentiously this is to curtail
potential abuse. ;)
I have some ideas along this line. One is to consider such
sub-systems to be very similar to traditional objects (or artifacts)
that are aquired by characters in non-traditional ways.
For instance, the mayorship of the Shire is a virtual
object/component that has various powers. Perhaps it contains
mechanisms to enable conscription, to set local tax rates, to
initiate festivals and feasts, and to "mark" characters as outlaws
(and set the mode of shire guards to kill on sight or apprehend).
Aquiring such an object or token might be conducted through annual
Shire voting mechanism, or a reputation system, etc. Perhaps the
call for votes is intiated by various council objects which have
their own mechanisms of aquisition.
> of course, this is all just driving toward what i really want from
> life, which is to be able to play persistent multiplayer Master of
> Magic on both strategic and tactical scales.
I think the Magic analogy is excellent. Instead of players aquiring
these tokens of power through random draw, they are aquired
primarily through social interaction.
Then again it's my opinion that all social interaction is politics
anyway.
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00077" HREF="msg00077.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>,
Mike Sellers <a href="mailto:mike#bignetwork,com">mike#bignetwork,com</a>, Wed 08 Jul 1998, 06:31 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00075" HREF="msg00075.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>,
S. Patrick Gallaty <a href="mailto:choke#sirius,com">choke#sirius,com</a>, Wed 08 Jul 1998, 05:56 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00101" HREF="msg00101.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 09 Jul 1998, 04:56 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00102" HREF="msg00102.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>,
Matthew R. Sheahan <a href="mailto:chaos#crystal,palace.net">chaos#crystal,palace.net</a>, Thu 09 Jul 1998, 05:19 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00138" HREF="msg00138.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Fri 10 Jul 1998, 03:37 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00461" HREF="msg00461.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Mon 03 Aug 1998, 20:02 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00482" HREF="msg00482.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Wed 05 Aug 1998, 04:52 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00344" HREF="msg00344.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Fri 24 Jul 1998, 22:44 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00345" HREF="msg00345.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>,
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Fri 24 Jul 1998, 23:00 GMT
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