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<LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI>
<LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Ansii color, needing some specs and or pointers.</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: Vadim Tkachenko <<A HREF="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 23:35:50 -0500</LI>
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Caliban Tiresias Darklock wrote:
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> On 12:05 AM 7/29/98 +0000, I personally witnessed Scatter jumping up to say:
> >
> >I guess their implementation of telnet protocol is
> >too minimal.
>
> I've harped about this several times to client authors. It seems that it is
> entirely possible for a telnet session to be run without ever sending or
> receiving a single IAC character, on both ends -- and in fact, my own
> chosen client (MUSHClient) used to hang completely on receipt of an IAC.
> While it doesn't 'support' telnet sequences, at least now it recognises
> them and responds appropriately according to the RFC (by refusing to do
> anything).
Be careful with locale support. Some of them, notably russian/ukrainian
(cyrillic in general), use the escape character as A CHARACTER, so you
have to escape it too - it's just not obvious for those who speak
English :-)
> As far as I'm concerned, a telnet client should at LEAST support the
> fundamental RFC by understanding IAC CAN/CAN'T WILL/WON'T negotiation.
An idea for you (that's how I implemented it): telnet protocol handler
is a container, and options are the objects, so as you add the option to
the container, it automatically CAN/WILL it (depending on the context),
and if you remove it, it CAN'T/WON'T (side question: are all telnet
clients/servers safe to the attempt to renegotiate the options not at
the very start of the session, but somewhere in between? Guess most of
them, because otherwise it would be a pain in the neck to resize the
Xterminal...)
That's if I remember my implementation right :-)
--
Still alive and smile stays on,
Vadim Tkachenko <vt#freehold,crocodile.org>
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UNIX _is_ user friendly, he's just very picky about who his friends are
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<LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: Ansii color, needing some specs and or pointers.</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00404" HREF="msg00404.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Ansii color, needing some specs and or pointers.</A></strong>,
Scatter <a href="mailto:scatter#thevortex,com">scatter#thevortex,com</a>, Tue 28 Jul 1998, 23:13 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00407" HREF="msg00407.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Ansii color, needing some specs and or pointers.</A></strong>,
Jo Dillon <a href="mailto:emily#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk">emily#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk</a>, Wed 29 Jul 1998, 00:24 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00415" HREF="msg00415.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Ansii color, needing some specs and or pointers.</A></strong>,
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Wed 29 Jul 1998, 06:55 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00417" HREF="msg00417.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Ansii color, needing some specs and or pointers.</A></strong>,
Ross Nicoll <a href="mailto:rnicoll#lostics,demon.co.uk">rnicoll#lostics,demon.co.uk</a>, Wed 29 Jul 1998, 11:59 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00428" HREF="msg00428.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Ansii color, needing some specs and or pointers.</A></strong>,
Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Thu 30 Jul 1998, 04:39 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00430" HREF="msg00430.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Ansii color, needing some specs and or pointers.</A></strong>,
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Thu 30 Jul 1998, 14:24 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00388" HREF="msg00388.html">[MUD-Dev] Ansii color, needing some specs and or pointers.</A></strong>,
Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Tue 28 Jul 1998, 04:24 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00389" HREF="msg00389.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Ansii color, needing some specs and or pointers.</A></strong>,
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Tue 28 Jul 1998, 04:50 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00391" HREF="msg00391.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Ansii color, needing some specs and or pointers.</A></strong>,
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Tue 28 Jul 1998, 04:58 GMT
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