<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun --> <!--X-From-R13: Brgev Hvexxhyn <civexxhyNpp.uhg.sv> --> <!--X-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 17:10:44 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 13730.47324.709550.782847#arioch,tky.hut.fi --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: BF298EBEB7E5D111A3CE0060083E51864C8CDD#cinexch01,galic.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:pvirkkul#cc,hut.fi"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00067.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00069.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00059.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00060.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00068">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00068">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00068">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Petri Virkkula <<A HREF="mailto:pvirkkul#cc,hut.fi">pvirkkul#cc,hut.fi</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 03:10:04 +0300 (EEST)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> >>>>> "CJones" == CJones <CJones#aagis,com> writes: CJones> Note that she advocates a system that is less programatic and CJones> instead relies on real people to provide a framework for a society. CJones> Discussion of punishments was not really addressed, rather the CJones> way to properly distinguish pkillers from the population. In CJones> general, she is opposed to the idea of pkilling and claims that CJones> she doesn't want to play on any MUD that espouses the practice, CJones> but she also believes that it does have a place in good role-playing. BatMUD has rules that player killing is allowed but mass murdering is not. Reasons behind the rule is that we do not want a high level player ruin other's game, but still allow player kills from "natural reasons" (eg. fumbling a spell). We also think that player killing is part of roleplaying (while you cannot exactly call BatMUD as roleplaying mud), thus one can register oneself as player killer and get small advantages from it. Because players do not loose much when they die, it seems that there are player killing is not the way players tend to punish other players. Most common way to ruin game of another player is to summon him/her to an area with difficult monsters or otherwise into a bad location. Anyway we do not even try to enforce strict no player killing rule, we are just trying to limit the bad side effects to minimal. It's upto other players to create a powerful party to punish player killers, thieves and other such players. But as I said, player killing is not what is mostly used among the players. Petri </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00059" HREF="msg00059.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> CJones#aagis,com</LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00067.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wired Magazine...)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00069.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: (fwd) Re: command parsers: a modest proposal (with apologies to J. 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Patrick Gallaty <a href="mailto:choke#sirius,com">choke#sirius,com</a>, Tue 07 Jul 1998, 19:28 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00066" HREF="msg00066.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Tue 07 Jul 1998, 21:13 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00064" HREF="msg00064.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Tue 07 Jul 1998, 19:51 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>