<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's --> <!--X-From-R13: "R. P. 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B. Brown" <<A HREF="mailto:dbrown1#stny,lrun.com">dbrown1#stny,lrun.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:44:54 -0400</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> -----Original Message----- From: Koster, Raph <rkoster#origin,ea.com> To: 'mud-dev#kanga,nu' <mud-dev#kanga,nu> Date: Wednesday, August 05, 1998 7:51 PM Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's >You're not going to have a viable 3d engine with 3d meshes for figures >unless you spend at least two years developing it. Consider the basic >problem: you need to support 30-40 fully animated 3d figures moving on >screen at once, in a 3d environment, ideally all with distinct meshes, >art, and equipment. I'm actually working on a system used as the front end of a mud. Generally, no more than five or six animated objects on screen at once. That, combined with highly dynamic data, especially data to be displayed that was entered as text. Not that a 3D system will be easy, but it's a better alternative than trying to put together a 2D system and rely on a steady art income. >This is an extremely non-trivial problem for a 3d engine. There's a >reason why folks like 989 Studios (formerly Sony Interactive, makers of >EverQuest) have been working on it for so long--and are requiring 3d >acceleration--and still only show 5-6 people at once. Cavedog's Total Annihilation has done this pretty well, even without acceleration, but I suspect that the shortcuts taken in their engine would lessen its effectiveness in the CRPG world. D. B. Brown </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00516.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Socket-Script: Socket-capabable script language and matching library</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00518.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Question regarding Java threads</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00502.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00521.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00517"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00517"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00497" HREF="msg00497.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 05 Aug 1998, 20:18 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00501" HREF="msg00501.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</A></strong>, D. B. Brown <a href="mailto:dbrown1#stny,lrun.com">dbrown1#stny,lrun.com</a>, Wed 05 Aug 1998, 21:57 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00503" HREF="msg00503.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#mail,angel.com">adam#mail,angel.com</a>, Wed 05 Aug 1998, 22:41 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00502" HREF="msg00502.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Wed 05 Aug 1998, 22:33 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00517" HREF="msg00517.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</A></strong>, D. B. Brown <a href="mailto:dbrown1#stny,lrun.com">dbrown1#stny,lrun.com</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 12:49 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00521" HREF="msg00521.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 16:01 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00529" HREF="msg00529.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</A></strong>, Nathan F Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 18:08 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01022" HREF="msg01022.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Sat 12 Sep 1998, 01:44 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01024" HREF="msg01024.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</A></strong>, Adam J. Thornton <a href="mailto:adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU">adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU</a>, Sat 12 Sep 1998, 08:44 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>