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<LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI>
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<LI><em>From</em>: Richard Woolcock <<A HREF="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 14:28:44 -0700</LI>
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<PRE>
Been invited to participate in a graphical mud. Having spoken with the
person in charge (Thoric, author of Realms of Despair (Smaug)) I feel
he might be able to make some interesting contributions to this list.
If not, I then I will provide you will updates as to the progress of the
mud as best I can.
KaVir.
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<LI><em>From</em>: Terri <<A HREF="mailto:jade#surfsouth,com">jade#surfsouth,com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 23:09:47 -0400</LI>
<LI><em>Cc</em>: <A HREF="mailto:kavir#dial,pipex.com">kavir#dial,pipex.com</A>, <A HREF="mailto:darker#darker,com">darker#darker,com</A></LI>
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>X-Authentication-Warning: hometown.idirect.com: derek owned process doing -bs
>Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:20:23 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Derek Snider <derek#idirect,com>
>To: Terri <jade#surfsouth,com>
>Subject: Re: brainstormer
>
>On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, Terri wrote:
>
>> Wednesday night, 10 pm. E.S.T.. on ROD.
>> Important meeting to attend if you're interested in taking mudding into the
>> 21st Century.
>
>Is that everyone that's invited? BTW... I wrote up a little propsal thing
>that should probably be mailed to everyone involved... take a gander:
>
>
>
> Proposal for a Multiplayer Interactive Medieval Internet based game
> ===================================================================
>
> The idea is to create a "virtual" reality of sorts without any hard
>limits or boundries. As flexible as possible without compromising speed and
>efficiency.
>
> The user interface to this environment would be irrelevant. It could
>start out as a text based interface, and gradually move towards something
>more impressive and marketable. Ideally it would support whatever interface
>the end user had -- from a simple text interface, to a high end state of the
>art VR interface complete with 3D headset, VR gloves, speech recognition,
>gesture recognition, the whole nine yards.
>
> The model for this would be a client-server one. The server would
>maintain the existance of a virtual world in a complex fashion, and the
>client would display a representation of that world based on the hardware
>the user owned. For the initial text based interface, this is something
>that could be handled by the server, or possibly another process running on
>the server side of things.
>
> Part of the key to making a full VR based interface possible would be to
>have only the minimum data flow between the client and server. While at
>first it may seem impossible with current bandwidth limitations, I believe
>this can be easily overcome by the proper design.
>
> My idea for this would be for everything to be based on an
>object-oriented inheritance model. You first define all the common base
>elements... your building blocks, and then build everything else from those.
>Rather than describe everything in detail, you describe only the
>differences -- take a sword for example: you could say that sword 'Y' is
>the same as sword 'X', except that it is a little longer.
>
> Everything in the virtual world would be relative to something else...
>much how the real world works. When someone describes something, they
>always say, "it's like this... but..." No one describes things in absolute
>detail, "It is composed of 50 gazillion electons..."
>
> When designing something that is a copy of real life, ie: a "virtual
>reality", I believe it is best to try and follow the same trends and
>patterns as real life. The concept to me is simple and obvious.
>
> Also, we need to keep in mind that while flashy graphics, cool music,
>sound effects, bells and whistles may make a good first impression, you need
>content to keep the people interested. It is always good to start with the
>good content, and save the bells and whistles for last, (though it's a good
>idea to keep them in mind while designing).
>
> It is a person's own imagination which is the most powerful tool. Hence
>the written and spoken word tends to paint a more vivid and lasting picture
>in one's mind than some flashy graphics. A very important part of this
>project will be a good story. It needs to be oozing with good creative
>content.
>
> Thinking ahead, it would be amazing to have good speech generation, and
>to have NPCs in the game able to hold conversations, to tell stories, to
>reveal important details.
>
> The key to this project is putting together different technologies which
>already exist, and in fact have existed for many years now. These
>technologies are becoming more and more refined... and I feel it is time to
>combine them into something amazing.
>
> Things like speech recognition, speech synthesis, gesture recognition,
>artificial intelligence, a kick-ass 3D engine, 3D headsets, digital stereo
>audio, role playing games, medieval fantasy, mythology, the occult, magic,
>witchcraft, multi-player interaction, the Internet, computers, a dream, and
>most importantly people to take all these things, and make the dream a
>reality.
>
> I believe all of these ingredients are within reach. The technology is
>there, and constantly improving. By the time we are closing in on
>completion, current technology will only be that much better, computer
>systems that much faster, home bandwidth that much wider, and the Internet
>that much more reliable. As I said, the most important part is the people
>to make this happen. I believe that we have those people -- ourselves.
>
> Realms of Despair was a small dream. I enjoyed playing MUDs while in
>school, and got really involved and addicted to one. Many thousands of
>people have become addicted to RoD -- it is something to be proud of.
>All this from a small dream... a little hobby I did in my spare time.
>
> Of course it would have been nothing without the people that helped me
>keep it going, and the players that played it, and encouraged us to keep on
>improving it. In the four years that RoD has been up, we have touched
>likely over 100,000 people. The release of the SMAUG code has only brought
>us that much more respect and recognition. There are close to a hundred
>SMAUG muds out there, and with the release of the next version I can only
>see SMAUG becoming that much more popular.
>
> I believe that RoD was a great learning experience for all of us. I
>know I learned more of my advanced coding skills from working on the MUD,
>and it has put me in touch with a lot of great people. Let us also not
>forget all the dedicated players.
>
> We must now look towards the future, and see what it holds for us. I
>cannot forsee the MUD in its current state growing too much bigger. The
>biggest problems with the MUD are that: (1) We cannot make a living from
>running it, and therefore the MUD must come second to making a living. (2)
>Internet Direct owns the name (Realms of Despair), the domainname (game.org)
>the machine it runs on, and provides the bandwidth -- if we could make money
>from the MUD they'd probably take a big cut. (3) The DikuMud license
>agreement prevents profitting in any way. (4) What would stop everyone from
>playing a free mud? (5) I don't really believe we should profit from RoD
>since that was never our intention in the first place.
>
>
>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00171" HREF="msg00171.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Physics Lesson</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00164" HREF="msg00164.html">[MUD-Dev] [Fwd: Re: brainstormer]</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00156" HREF="msg00156.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00163" HREF="msg00163.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</A></strong>,
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