<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Justifying twinking --> <!--X-From-R13: "Vrff, Wna I (Wna)" <vurffNyhprag.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 21:13:21 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: C32D66E0EFABD111BF8400805FE65D6105B25CC8@ex-campus1.corp.octel.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Justifying twinking</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:ihess#lucent,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00504.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00507.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00476.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00414.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00501">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00501">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00501">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Justifying twinking</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: "'<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>'" <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Justifying twinking</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Hess, Ian W (Ian)" <<A HREF="mailto:ihess#lucent,com">ihess#lucent,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:01:45 -0700</LI> <LI><em>Original-From</em>: "Hess, Ian W (Ian)" <ihess#exchange,sv.lucent.com></LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Todd McKimmey wrote: <snip> >"That's onegoal that we're attempting to achieve with SushiMud -- characters will start > at a power level somewhere equal to about level 5 or so on most stock dikumuds. In > the end, however, a newbie played by an experienced character is always going to feel > like a newbie and relatively powerless given their experience." <snip> Unless you have a method for the "level one Diku character" powerlevel to be apparent to the players, I think you run the risk of merely have a short period of happy players before their expectations adjust, and a beginner character is becomes uninteresting again. I'm wondering if this happens because players will only kill so many rats before it becomes old hat, and would rather experience a richer "mid-game" scenario that is more attractive by virtue of a greater variety of things to do, more interesting combinations of abilities, or simple character uniqueness. Instead of moving the starting point up, how about offering a different approach to beginning a character, perhaps quests, training scenarios or somesuch that are only available to return players or new players who can figure out a difficult puzzle? Ian Hess _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev mailing list MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00504.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] interesting article on world size and finance</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00507.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Simpson's "In-Game Economics of UO"</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00476.html">Re: RE: [MUD-Dev] Justifying twinking</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00414.html">[MUD-Dev] Skotos Proximity System - a Technical Summary (LONG)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00501"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00501"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>RE: [MUD-Dev] Justifying twinking</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00461" HREF="msg00461.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Justifying twinking</A></strong>, Justin Lockshaw <a href="mailto:jlockshaw#signio,com">jlockshaw#signio,com</a>, Wed 19 Apr 2000, 18:55 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00511" HREF="msg00511.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Justifying twinking</A></strong>, Raph Koster <a href="mailto:rkoster#austin,rr.com">rkoster#austin,rr.com</a>, Sat 22 Apr 2000, 04:13 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00464" HREF="msg00464.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Justifying twinking</A></strong>, S. Patrick Gallaty <a href="mailto:choke#sirius,com">choke#sirius,com</a>, Wed 19 Apr 2000, 18:55 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00476" HREF="msg00476.html">Re: RE: [MUD-Dev] Justifying twinking</A></strong>, jolson <a href="mailto:jolson#micron,net">jolson#micron,net</a>, Wed 19 Apr 2000, 22:53 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00501" HREF="msg00501.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Justifying twinking</A></strong>, Hess, Ian W (Ian) <a href="mailto:ihess#lucent,com">ihess#lucent,com</a>, Sat 22 Apr 2000, 04:13 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00414" HREF="msg00414.html">[MUD-Dev] Skotos Proximity System - a Technical Summary (LONG)</A></strong>, Christopher Allen <a href="mailto:ChristopherA#Skotos,net">ChristopherA#Skotos,net</a>, Tue 18 Apr 2000, 19:49 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00411" HREF="msg00411.html">[MUD-Dev] incremental revenue discussion</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:the_logos#achaea,com">the_logos#achaea,com</a>, Tue 18 Apr 2000, 19:49 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00405" HREF="msg00405.html">[MUD-Dev] new list</A></strong>, Kevin Littlejohn <a href="mailto:darius#connect,com.au">darius#connect,com.au</a>, Tue 18 Apr 2000, 00:12 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00403" HREF="msg00403.html">[MUD-Dev] RE: MUD-Dev request rejected</A></strong>, Schubert, Damion <a href="mailto:dschubert#origin,ea.com">dschubert#origin,ea.com</a>, Tue 18 Apr 2000, 00:06 GMT </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>